Michelle Steiner

<http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...teve-jobs-fune
ral-134752333.html>

TheÂ*Westboro Baptist ChurchÂ*took to anÂ*iPhoneÂ*when they heard aboutÂ*Steve
Jobs’ deathÂ*Wednesday night,Â*sending out a messageÂ*saying theÂ*AppleÂ*founder
would be going to hell and calling for a protest of his funeral.

“Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God no
glory and taught sin,â€� wroteÂ*Margie Phelps, daughter of the church’s
founder.

The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers’ funerals to draw
media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay material.
PhelpsÂ*tweeted the messages from her account, with an automatic note
appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying “via Twitter for iPhone.� “No
peace for man who served self, not God,� she wrote with the hashtag,
#hellgreetedhim. “Westboro must picket.�

Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her using the
iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was created by God–not
Jobs–for that purpose. “Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell youÂ*Steve
JobsÂ*is in hell.God created iPhone for that purpose! â€� she wrote.

Arrangements for Jobs’ funeral haven’t been announced.

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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Le Chiffre

On Oct 6, 11:01*am, Michelle Steiner <miche...@michelle.org> wrote:
> <http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...nce-steve-jobs...
> ral-134752333.html>
>
> The*Westboro Baptist Church*took to an*iPhone*when they heard about*Steve
> Jobs’ death*Wednesday night,*sending out a message*saying the*Apple*founder
> would be going to hell and calling for a protest of his funeral.
>
> “Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God no
> glory and taught sin,” wrote*Margie Phelps, daughter of the church’s
> founder.
>
> The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers’ funerals to draw
> media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay material.
> Phelps*tweeted the messages from her account, with an automatic note
> appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying “via Twitter for iPhone.”“No
> peace for man who served self, not God,” she wrote with the hashtag,
> #hellgreetedhim. “Westboro must picket.”
>
> Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her using the
> iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was created by God–not
> Jobs–for that purpose. “Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell you*Steve
> Jobs*is in hell.

>God created iPhone for that purpose! ” she wrote.

So, she's calling Steve Jobs "God", and she's protesting "God"? Nice
to know which side of the fence she's on.


> Arrangements for Jobs’ funeral haven’t been announced.
>
> --
> Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
> People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

George Kerby

On 10/6/11 10:01 AM, in article
michelle-2ADE94.08012106102011@news....-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> <http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...teve-jobs-fune
> ral-134752333.html>
>
> The*Westboro Baptist Church*took to an*iPhone*when they heard about*Steve
> Jobs¹ death*Wednesday night,*sending out a message*saying the*Apple*founder
> would be going to hell and calling for a protest of his funeral.
>
> ³Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God no
> glory and taught sin,² wrote*Margie Phelps, daughter of the church¹s
> founder.
>
> The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers¹ funerals to draw
> media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay material.
> Phelps*tweeted the messages from her account, with an automatic note
> appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying ³via Twitter for iPhone.² ³No
> peace for man who served self, not God,² she wrote with the hashtag,
> #hellgreetedhim. ³Westboro must picket.²
>
> Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her using the
> iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was created by God*not
> Jobs*for that purpose. ³Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell you*Steve
> Jobs*is in hell.God created iPhone for that purpose! ² she wrote.
>
> Arrangements for Jobs¹ funeral haven¹t been announced.

It's assholes like these that give those of us right of center a bad rap.
Someone should go to one of their meetings taser them all. I'm all for
freedom of speech, but when it is for publicity at the expense of others, it
has exceeded acceptable boundaries.

Michelle Steiner

In article <CAB335A6.7924D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's assholes like these that give those of us right of center a bad
> rap. Someone should go to one of their meetings taser them all. I'm all
> for freedom of speech, but when it is for publicity at the expense of
> others, it has exceeded acceptable boundaries.

That attitude is why I can accept you as an e-friend despite our strong
political differences.

Well, that and the humor in your email address, that is.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Tim McNamara

Why give more publicity to a bunch of evil, insane whackos?

--
Your time is limited. Don't waste it living someone else's life.

Steve Jobs 1955-2011

Tim McNamara

In article <CAB335A6.7924D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/6/11 10:01 AM, in article
> michelle-2ADE94.08012106102011@news....-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > <http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...ounce-steve-jo
> > bs-fune ral-134752333.html>
> >
> > The*Westboro Baptist Church*took to an*iPhone*when they heard
> > about*Steve Jobs¹ death*Wednesday night,*sending out a
> > message*saying the*Apple*founder would be going to hell and calling
> > for a protest of his funeral.
> >
> > ³Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God
> > no glory and taught sin,² wrote*Margie Phelps, daughter of the
> > church¹s founder.
> >
> > The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers¹ funerals
> > to draw media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay
> > material. Phelps*tweeted the messages from her account, with an
> > automatic note appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying ³via
> > Twitter for iPhone.² ³No peace for man who served self, not God,²
> > she wrote with the hashtag, #hellgreetedhim. ³Westboro must
> > picket.²
> >
> > Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her
> > using the iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was
> > created by God*not Jobs*for that purpose. ³Rebels mad cuz I used
> > iPhone to tell you*Steve Jobs*is in hell.God created iPhone for
> > that purpose! ² she wrote.
> >
> > Arrangements for Jobs¹ funeral haven¹t been announced.
>
> It's assholes like these that give those of us right of center a bad
> rap.

That's true, man! Conservatism is one vital pole in the American
experiment, Liberalism being the other. The creative tension between
those two is what has made America what it is (for both good and ill).
Unfortunately some folks- usually at the extremes- think their side
should unequivocally "win."

> Someone should go to one of their meetings taser them all. I'm all
> for freedom of speech, but when it is for publicity at the expense of
> others, it has exceeded acceptable boundaries.

Which is always a slippery slope...

--
Your time is limited. Don't waste it living someone else's life.

Steve Jobs 1955-2011

M. John Matlaw

George Kerby wrote:
>
>
> On 10/6/11 10:01 AM, in article
> michelle-2ADE94.08012106102011@news....-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>
>><http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...teve-jobs-fune
>>ral-134752333.html>
>>
>>The Westboro Baptist Church took to an iPhone when they heard about Steve
>>Jobs¹ death Wednesday night, sending out a message saying the Apple founder
>>would be going to hell and calling for a protest of his funeral.
>>
>>³Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God no
>>glory and taught sin,² wrote Margie Phelps, daughter of the church¹s
>>founder.
>>
>>The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers¹ funerals to draw
>>media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay material.
>>Phelps tweeted the messages from her account, with an automatic note
>>appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying ³via Twitter for iPhone.² ³No
>>peace for man who served self, not God,² she wrote with the hashtag,
>>#hellgreetedhim. ³Westboro must picket.²
>>
>>Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her using the
>>iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was created by God*not
>>Jobs*for that purpose. ³Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell you Steve
>>Jobs is in hell.God created iPhone for that purpose! ² she wrote.
>>
>>Arrangements for Jobs¹ funeral haven¹t been announced.
>
>
> It's assholes like these that give those of us right of center a bad rap.
> Someone should go to one of their meetings taser them all. I'm all for
> freedom of speech, but when it is for publicity at the expense of others, it
> has exceeded acceptable boundaries.
>
I don't even see them as right of center. That's like calling Pol Pot a
communist. Who cares what he's he calling himself. You murder millions
you're political philosophy doesn't interest me. Granted Westboro
Baptist Church hasn't murdered anyone. But their actions and speech are
so offensive that it's hard to say they belong to any part of any
political spectrum except, possible, the loony band. Which, despite
being sometimes subdivided into left and right, is probably better
characterized a one demented clump.

salgud

On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:05:28 -0400, M. John Matlaw wrote:

> George Kerby wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/11 10:01 AM, in article
>> michelle-2ADE94.08012106102011@news....-september.org, "Michelle
>> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>><http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-churc...teve-jobs-fune
>>>ral-134752333.html>
>>>
>>>The Westboro Baptist Church took to an iPhone when they heard about Steve
>>>Jobs¹ death Wednesday night, sending out a message saying the Apple founder
>>>would be going to hell and calling for a protest of his funeral.
>>>
>>>³Westboro will picket his funeral. He had a huge platform; gave God no
>>>glory and taught sin,² wrote Margie Phelps, daughter of the church¹s
>>>founder.
>>>
>>>The controversial group often pickets outside of soldiers¹ funerals to draw
>>>media attention to their cause, which includes anti-gay material.
>>>Phelps tweeted the messages from her account, with an automatic note
>>>appearing at the bottom of the Tweet saying ³via Twitter for iPhone.² ³No
>>>peace for man who served self, not God,² she wrote with the hashtag,
>>>#hellgreetedhim. ³Westboro must picket.²
>>>
>>>Thursday morning, Phelps responded to widespread criticism of her using the
>>>iPhone to Tweet the messages, saying that the phone was created by God*not
>>>Jobs*for that purpose. ³Rebels mad cuz I used iPhone to tell you Steve
>>>Jobs is in hell.God created iPhone for that purpose! ² she wrote.
>>>
>>>Arrangements for Jobs¹ funeral haven¹t been announced.
>>
>>
>> It's assholes like these that give those of us right of center a bad rap.
>> Someone should go to one of their meetings taser them all. I'm all for
>> freedom of speech, but when it is for publicity at the expense of others, it
>> has exceeded acceptable boundaries.
>>
> I don't even see them as right of center. That's like calling Pol Pot a
> communist. Who cares what he's he calling himself. You murder millions
> you're political philosophy doesn't interest me. Granted Westboro
> Baptist Church hasn't murdered anyone. But their actions and speech are
> so offensive that it's hard to say they belong to any part of any
> political spectrum except, possible, the loony band. Which, despite
> being sometimes subdivided into left and right, is probably better
> characterized a one demented clump.

They hate gays, they're right wing, and it does matter, because it shows
just how far to the right you can get in this country, as opposed to the
fact that most of what we call the "left" is really pretty moderate
centrist. There is no left in the USA anymore, McCarthy made sure of that.
It's part of the problem, we have no real "left", as in socialist, party or
movement to offset the extreme right that is so prevelent these days.
That's what the Occupy Wall St demonstration is about, though even they
dare not couch it in those terms, and I doubt that many of them think of it
that way. It's unAmerican to be socialist and to advocate for some controls
over the big corporations and the ultra-rich. We're just supposed to wish
we were one of them so we can be above criticism and control too.

Michelle Steiner

In article <13j1brcwl3gop.190lxj04pgt86.dlg@40tude.net>,
salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote:

> There is no left in the USA anymore, McCarthy made sure of that. It's
> part of the problem, we have no real "left", as in socialist, party or
> movement to offset the extreme right that is so prevelent these days.
> That's what the Occupy Wall St demonstration is about, though even they
> dare not couch it in those terms, and I doubt that many of them think of
> it that way. It's unAmerican to be socialist and to advocate for some
> controls over the big corporations and the ultra-rich. We're just
> supposed to wish we were one of them so we can be above criticism and
> control too.

IOW, there's no left left.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Wes Groleau

On 10-06-2011 14:34, Tim McNamara wrote:
> That's true, man! Conservatism is one vital pole in the American
> experiment, Liberalism being the other. The creative tension between
> those two is what has made America what it is (for both good and ill).
> Unfortunately some folks- usually at the extremes- think their side
> should unequivocally "win."

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