c_mulholland@nym.hush.com

My goal is to copy MP3 & M4A music files from a portable HDD to my HDD and
finally sync to my iPhone 3GS running iOS5.

A friend gave me a HDD with 1TB of music. I chose the artists I wanted and
copied the artists music folder from the portable HDD to my dedicated iTunes
HDD which is: 'G:\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music'

My friend states all I have to do is sync my iPhone and the new music will
be copied to my iPhone and the music library on my HDD. Is that correct?

I noticed that music is stored in two places in iTunes. One place is the
music library. Not sure where the other place is but I am sure I saw it
when I plugged my iPhone in. Does anyone know what I am talking about? It
is late and I am sleepy but I am sure I noticed two places where music was
stored in iTunes.

Some of the music folders on the portable HDD have a '.DS_Store' file in
them. Anyone know what that is? Should I copy the 'DS_Store' file when I
copy the music files to my iTunes HDD or trash it?

Songs in some of the folders are structured differently. For instance: some
have: '01-play this song' without the quotes.

Some songs have:
'02_play this song also' without the quotes.

Some songs have: '03 diddo play this song too' without the quotes.

Finally, some songs do not have any number in front of them.

Which format is correct?

What is the difference between a MP3 file and a M4A file?

I am waiting until someone answers me before syncing my iPhone. Once
bitten, twice shy. I lost my contacts when I did something stupid and don't
want to screw up my iPhone again.

Thanks in Advance folks.

nospam

In article <lbv4h7lj630urcnlhkhcbgeoaflsd9kvvi@4ax.com>,
<c_mulholland@nym.hush.com> wrote:

> My goal is to copy MP3 & M4A music files from a portable HDD to my HDD and
> finally sync to my iPhone 3GS running iOS5.
>
> A friend gave me a HDD with 1TB of music. I chose the artists I wanted and
> copied the artists music folder from the portable HDD to my dedicated iTunes
> HDD which is: 'G:\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music'

nothing like a bit of piracy...

> My friend states all I have to do is sync my iPhone and the new music will
> be copied to my iPhone and the music library on my HDD. Is that correct?

basically.

> I noticed that music is stored in two places in iTunes. One place is the
> music library. Not sure where the other place is but I am sure I saw it
> when I plugged my iPhone in. Does anyone know what I am talking about? It
> is late and I am sleepy but I am sure I noticed two places where music was
> stored in iTunes.

it should only be in one place. why do you think it's in two places?

> Some of the music folders on the portable HDD have a '.DS_Store' file in
> them. Anyone know what that is? Should I copy the 'DS_Store' file when I
> copy the music files to my iTunes HDD or trash it?

that's how macs save icon and window position and it's an incredibly
stupid way to do it. if you aren't on a mac, ignore it and feel free to
delete it. those files won't cause any problems on pcs (other than
polluting all the folders).

> Songs in some of the folders are structured differently. For instance: some
> have: '01-play this song' without the quotes.
>
> Some songs have:
> '02_play this song also' without the quotes.
>
> Some songs have: '03 diddo play this song too' without the quotes.
>
> Finally, some songs do not have any number in front of them.
>
> Which format is correct?

the name of the file does not matter. what matters is the id3 tags in
the file.

what shows up in itunes?

> What is the difference between a MP3 file and a M4A file?

one is mp3 and the other is aac. they are two different formats, both
of which are supported by itunes and iphones.

Wes Groleau

On 01-15-2012 14:54, nospam wrote:
> <c_mulholland@nym.hush.com> wrote:
>> What is the difference between a MP3 file and a M4A file?
>
> one is mp3 and the other is aac. they are two different formats, both
> of which are supported by itunes and iphones.

And usually, the AAC or m4a is smaller than the mp3

--
Wes Groleau

People would have more leisure time if it weren't
for all the leisure-time activities that use it up.
— Peg Bracken

c_mulholland@nym.hush.com

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:54:34 -0800, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <lbv4h7lj630urcnlhkhcbgeoaflsd9kvvi@4ax.com>,
><c_mulholland@nym.hush.com> wrote:
>
>> My goal is to copy MP3 & M4A music files from a portable HDD to my HDD and
>> finally sync to my iPhone 3GS running iOS5.
>>
>> A friend gave me a HDD with 1TB of music. I chose the artists I wanted and
>> copied the artists music folder from the portable HDD to my dedicated iTunes
>> HDD which is: 'G:\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music'
>
>nothing like a bit of piracy...

Yup, greed is good...music piracy is even better!

>
>> My friend states all I have to do is sync my iPhone and the new music will
>> be copied to my iPhone and the music library on my HDD. Is that correct?
>
>basically.

OK, I synced my iPhone.

I guess the anti-piracy gods voiced his/her displeasure over my actions. It
didn't work. Not sure what I did wrong. The new music did not transfer
from my HDD to my iPhone. Not sure what I did wrong. Not sure if I have a
parameter in iTunes not set correctly or not. The only music on my iPhone
is music that I purchased.

>
>> I noticed that music is stored in two places in iTunes. One place is the
>> music library. Not sure where the other place is but I am sure I saw it
>> when I plugged my iPhone in. Does anyone know what I am talking about? It
>> is late and I am sleepy but I am sure I noticed two places where music was
>> stored in iTunes.
>
>it should only be in one place. why do you think it's in two places?

My bad. I was wrong.

>
>> Some of the music folders on the portable HDD have a '.DS_Store' file in
>> them. Anyone know what that is? Should I copy the 'DS_Store' file when I
>> copy the music files to my iTunes HDD or trash it?
>
>that's how macs save icon and window position and it's an incredibly
>stupid way to do it. if you aren't on a mac, ignore it and feel free to
>delete it. those files won't cause any problems on pcs (other than
>polluting all the folders).
>
>> Songs in some of the folders are structured differently. For instance: some
>> have: '01-play this song' without the quotes.
>>
>> Some songs have:
>> '02_play this song also' without the quotes.
>>
>> Some songs have: '03 diddo play this song too' without the quotes.
>>
>> Finally, some songs do not have any number in front of them.
>>
>> Which format is correct?
>
>the name of the file does not matter. what matters is the id3 tags in
>the file.

Not sure what the id3 tag is. What is it?
>
>what shows up in itunes?

The only thing that shows up in itunes is the music I purchased. The music
on my HDD (that I added) in 'G:\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music' does not show up
in iTunes.

>
>> What is the difference between a MP3 file and a M4A file?
>
>one is mp3 and the other is aac. they are two different formats, both
>of which are supported by itunes and iphones.

TNX.

c_mulholland@nym.hush.com

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:18:59 -0500, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
wrote:

>On 01-15-2012 14:54, nospam wrote:
>> <c_mulholland@nym.hush.com> wrote:
>>> What is the difference between a MP3 file and a M4A file?
>>
>> one is mp3 and the other is aac. they are two different formats, both
>> of which are supported by itunes and iphones.
>
>And usually, the AAC or m4a is smaller than the mp3

TNX Wes.

nospam

In article <7l99h79tonnmvo3a0iajkbjbspgl5nusdk@4ax.com>,
<c_mulholland@nym.hush.com> wrote:

> Not sure what the id3 tag is. What is it?

id3 tags are metadata in the song that lists the name, artist, album,
genre, track number, artwork, etc. the file name is ignored.

> >what shows up in itunes?
>
> The only thing that shows up in itunes is the music I purchased. The music
> on my HDD (that I added) in 'G:\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music' does not show up
> in iTunes.

if all you did was drag the music to the folder, then itunes does not
know about it.

you need to drag the music to the itunes window itself, which will then
add it to its database, and depending on how you set the preference for
copying, itunes will copy the music to the music folder, so you should
check to see how that's set or you might get duplicate files.

Jolly Roger

In article <7l99h79tonnmvo3a0iajkbjbspgl5nusdk@4ax.com>,
c_mulholland@nym.hush.com wrote:

> OK, I synced my iPhone.
>
> I guess the anti-piracy gods voiced his/her displeasure over my actions. It
> didn't work. Not sure what I did wrong. The new music did not transfer
> from my HDD to my iPhone. Not sure what I did wrong. Not sure if I have a
> parameter in iTunes not set correctly or not. The only music on my iPhone
> is music that I purchased.

Dragging the music into the folder in a Finder window doesn't add it to
the iTunes library. You probably didn't drag the music into the iTunes
window. iTunes doesn't regularly scan the music folder for new files, as
that would be rather inefficient in terms of CPU usage and file I/O.

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nospam

In article <jollyroger-D424BA.19110316012012@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> > I guess the anti-piracy gods voiced his/her displeasure over my actions. It
> > didn't work. Not sure what I did wrong. The new music did not transfer
> > from my HDD to my iPhone. Not sure what I did wrong. Not sure if I have a
> > parameter in iTunes not set correctly or not. The only music on my iPhone
> > is music that I purchased.
>
> Dragging the music into the folder in a Finder window doesn't add it to
> the iTunes library. You probably didn't drag the music into the iTunes
> window. iTunes doesn't regularly scan the music folder for new files, as
> that would be rather inefficient in terms of CPU usage and file I/O.

actually it wouldn't have any impact at all, and in fact, that's
exactly what itunes currently does, although it's a specially
designated folder and not the main music folder.

Howard Brazee

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:19:54 -0800, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>if all you did was drag the music to the folder, then itunes does not
>know about it.
>
>you need to drag the music to the itunes window itself, which will then
>add it to its database, and depending on how you set the preference for
>copying, itunes will copy the music to the music folder, so you should
>check to see how that's set or you might get duplicate files.

Although I have been able to copy a whole music database from one
computer to another (with two different operating systems though). But
one database completely overwrote the other.

When I got my Mac, I burned one CD, just to see where to copy my
Windows iTunes database.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Wes Groleau

On 01-16-2012 20:15, nospam wrote:
> Jolly Roger<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Dragging the music into the folder in a Finder window doesn't add it to
>> the iTunes library. You probably didn't drag the music into the iTunes
>> window. iTunes doesn't regularly scan the music folder for new files, as
>> that would be rather inefficient in terms of CPU usage and file I/O.
>
> actually it wouldn't have any impact at all, and in fact, that's
> exactly what itunes currently does, although it's a specially
> designated folder and not the main music folder.

When I first got iTunes, it asked me if I wanted it to scan the hard
drive for music. Not the Music folder, the hard drive.

I said No, and it has never asked again. Nor has it asked whether it
should add new files that I copy onto the drive. Nor iported any
without asking.

It does ask if it should import from inserted CDs but not from files on
the hard drive.

--
Wes Groleau

People would have more leisure time if it weren't
for all the leisure-time activities that use it up.
— Peg Bracken