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In article <r0qa86hlgunv6vva2jhktf3s1q97us0k4a@4ax.com>, Anne
<Anne@noyb.com> wrote:

> Do you get a better signal with the Iphone 4 and WiFi 'N' than you got
> with the 3GS and WiFi 'G'? My 3GS WiFi is mostly good but sometimes
> the signal gets weak or even dies. I can be in the same room with the
> Linksys router and it still does it.

if you're in the same room and are getting a weak signal then there is
some other issue.

> So is 'N' a big improvement over the 3GS 'G'?

802.11n is much better than 802.11g, both in speed and in distance,
however, the 3gs doesn't support n so although you'll get some benefit,
it won't be that much except at the opposite end of your house.

if you get an iphone 4, it will be able to connect via 802.11n (and if
your router is also n, you'll have faster speeds), but the drawback is
that the iphone 4 does not use the 5ghz band, so it's not as fast as it
could be, such as with a laptop.

> I've also heard that not all WiFi N routers are created equal so does
> anyone have a router recommendation?

do you have other devices that are wireless other than the iphone?

the apple airport extreme is a good choice because it's a dual band and
can run n on both 2.4ghz (for the iphone) and also on 5ghz (for devices
that support it). most routers are either/or, and some don't even
support 5ghz.

however, you can also keep your current wifi router for devices that
aren't capable of n, and get a less expensive n router for n-only, but
that is not as easy to set up.

Anne

On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:58:34 -0700, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <r0qa86hlgunv6vva2jhktf3s1q97us0k4a@4ax.com>, Anne
><Anne@noyb.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you get a better signal with the Iphone 4 and WiFi 'N' than you got
>> with the 3GS and WiFi 'G'? My 3GS WiFi is mostly good but sometimes
>> the signal gets weak or even dies. I can be in the same room with the
>> Linksys router and it still does it.
>
>if you're in the same room and are getting a weak signal then there is
>some other issue.
>
>> So is 'N' a big improvement over the 3GS 'G'?
>
>802.11n is much better than 802.11g, both in speed and in distance,
>however, the 3gs doesn't support n so although you'll get some benefit,
>it won't be that much except at the opposite end of your house.
>
>if you get an iphone 4, it will be able to connect via 802.11n (and if
>your router is also n, you'll have faster speeds), but the drawback is
>that the iphone 4 does not use the 5ghz band, so it's not as fast as it
>could be, such as with a laptop.
>
>> I've also heard that not all WiFi N routers are created equal so does
>> anyone have a router recommendation?
>
>do you have other devices that are wireless other than the iphone?
>
>the apple airport extreme is a good choice because it's a dual band and
>can run n on both 2.4ghz (for the iphone) and also on 5ghz (for devices
>that support it). most routers are either/or, and some don't even
>support 5ghz.
>
>however, you can also keep your current wifi router for devices that
>aren't capable of n, and get a less expensive n router for n-only, but
>that is not as easy to set up.

Thanks.

I am not thinking about using 'N' with my 3GS as it only works with
'G'.
Let me rephrase my question: do you see a big wifi improvement with
iphone 4? If you can only use 2.4ghz with iphone 4 is it still a
significant improvementnover the 3GS?

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In article <vv5b861viqsdo8sg1kt17e5ocsi3e6ogpg@4ax.com>, Anne
<Anne@noyb.com> wrote:

> I am not thinking about using 'N' with my 3GS as it only works with
> 'G'.

true, but you'll see a small benefit at the far ends of your house even
if you're using g. on the other hand, if you live in a small apartment,
it won't matter.

> Let me rephrase my question: do you see a big wifi improvement with
> iphone 4? If you can only use 2.4ghz with iphone 4 is it still a
> significant improvementnover the 3GS?

i don't have an iphone 4, but 802.11n is definitely faster even if it's
restricted to 2.4 ghz, plus you get a whole lot of other benefits in an
iphone 4, in addition to the wifi. also, the cellular radios are
faster, especially on uplink.

Chris

On 07/09/2010 02:51, Anne wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:58:34 -0700, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> In article<r0qa86hlgunv6vva2jhktf3s1q97us0k4a@4ax.com >, Anne
>> <Anne@noyb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you get a better signal with the Iphone 4 and WiFi 'N' than you got
>>> with the 3GS and WiFi 'G'? My 3GS WiFi is mostly good but sometimes
>>> the signal gets weak or even dies. I can be in the same room with the
>>> Linksys router and it still does it.
>>
>> if you're in the same room and are getting a weak signal then there is
>> some other issue.
>>
>>> So is 'N' a big improvement over the 3GS 'G'?
>>
>> 802.11n is much better than 802.11g, both in speed and in distance,
>> however, the 3gs doesn't support n so although you'll get some benefit,
>> it won't be that much except at the opposite end of your house.
>>
>> if you get an iphone 4, it will be able to connect via 802.11n (and if
>> your router is also n, you'll have faster speeds), but the drawback is
>> that the iphone 4 does not use the 5ghz band, so it's not as fast as it
>> could be, such as with a laptop.
>>
>>> I've also heard that not all WiFi N routers are created equal so does
>>> anyone have a router recommendation?
>>
>> do you have other devices that are wireless other than the iphone?
>>
>> the apple airport extreme is a good choice because it's a dual band and
>> can run n on both 2.4ghz (for the iphone) and also on 5ghz (for devices
>> that support it). most routers are either/or, and some don't even
>> support 5ghz.
>>
>> however, you can also keep your current wifi router for devices that
>> aren't capable of n, and get a less expensive n router for n-only, but
>> that is not as easy to set up.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I am not thinking about using 'N' with my 3GS as it only works with
> 'G'.
> Let me rephrase my question: do you see a big wifi improvement with
> iphone 4? If you can only use 2.4ghz with iphone 4 is it still a
> significant improvementnover the 3GS?
The reason you might not get the full benefits of N at 2.4GHz is the
number of other networks in that spectrum using different protocols,
they use smaller chunks of the spectrum, whereas 5GHz is only used by N
devices which use it in the same chunk size and there are probably not
as many of them to interfere with each other. That's likely to change as
more and more people get N networks.

--
Chris

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In article <W_GdnQJYxahebBrRnZ2dnUVZ8gWdnZ2d@bt.com>, Chris
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> The reason you might not get the full benefits of N at 2.4GHz is the
> number of other networks in that spectrum using different protocols,
> they use smaller chunks of the spectrum, whereas 5GHz is only used by N
> devices which use it in the same chunk size and there are probably not
> as many of them to interfere with each other. That's likely to change as
> more and more people get N networks.

that's part of it. you can also bond the 5gz channels for the highest
bandwidth.

Larry

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:080920101344291033%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> that's part of it. you can also bond the 5gz channels for the highest
> bandwidth.
>
>

Just what we all need, 500Gbps wifi connected to our 1.2Kbps pinhole to the
net.