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Old 07-26-2010, 08:27 AM
Gernot Frisch
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Default OT: Nintendo and WPA


> enable wpa encryption with a good passphrase. if you've already done
> that, then mac address filtering doesn't offer you any benefit.


My kid's got an DSi, which can do WPA2. My Wii also. Or is that connected by cable. I can't remmeber off my mind.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:27 PM
Wes Groleau
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Default Re: Problem with iPhone Wireless MAC address

On 07-24-2010 02:10, R.Giskard Reventlov wrote:
> I use MAC filtering on my Linksys WAG54G ADSL Gateway. (Latest firmware)
>
> When I enter my new iPhone 4 Wireless MAC address it returns the error
> " The MAC Address cant be the Multicast address"


Hunt around on the other config pages. Do you already have the same
address entered somewhere else? (Which maybe considered "multi-cast"
even if it’s labeled something else)

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Old 07-26-2010, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Problem with iPhone Wireless MAC address

On 07-24-2010 08:25, Robert Haar wrote:
> Some WiFi access points support a dual band configuration where one can be
> locked down WPA and the other with WEP but restricted to be a separate
> subnet. That way, you can isolate anything that is more sensitive to a more
> secure LAN.


Or use two WiFi routers.

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Old 07-26-2010, 11:27 PM
Wes Groleau
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Default Re: Problem with iPhone Wireless MAC address

On 07-24-2010 11:08, nospam wrote:
> then leave it on wep, but turn off mac address filtering. it's about as
> easy to spoof as wep is to crack.


In other words, it's not trivial, but not extremely hard, either.

Anything that slows down someone looking for a free connection
is going to keep them out completely, as they need not go far
to find someone completely unsecured.

Now if they are targetting you specifically, slowing them down
probably won't help but it probably won't hurt, either.

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Old 07-26-2010, 11:27 PM
Wes Groleau
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On 07-24-2010 11:08, nospam wrote:
> then leave it on wep, but turn off mac address filtering. it's about as
> easy to spoof as wep is to crack.


In other words, it's not trivial, but not extremely hard, either.

Anything that slows down someone looking for a free connection
is going to keep them out completely, as they need not go far
to find someone completely unsecured.

Now if they are targetting you specifically, slowing them down
probably won't help but it probably won't hurt, either.

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Old 07-26-2010, 11:27 PM
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In article <i2l2et$eau$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> > then leave it on wep, but turn off mac address filtering. it's about as
> > easy to spoof as wep is to crack.

>
> In other words, it's not trivial, but not extremely hard, either.


it's actually easier. the mac address is sent in the clear. the rest is
encrypted, and with wep takes a minute or so to crack it.

> Anything that slows down someone looking for a free connection
> is going to keep them out completely, as they need not go far
> to find someone completely unsecured.


it will stop the casual drive-by but so will wep. there's no point in
having *both*. anyone who can crack wep is not going to be the least
bit slowed down by mac address filtering.

> Now if they are targetting you specifically, slowing them down
> probably won't help but it probably won't hurt, either.


if someone is targeting you specifically, you have far, far bigger
problems to worry about.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:27 AM
Wes Groleau
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On 07-26-2010 19:19, nospam wrote:
> it's actually easier. the mac address is sent in the clear. the rest is
> encrypted, and with wep takes a minute or so to crack it.


Think about it. If your desire to get into my system is sufficient that
you sit around and wait for someone else to get in, then make the effort
to spoof their MAC, then take the time to crack the WEP, then when that
doesn't work it will probably not take long for you to figure out why
(but I'm not telling) and then you'll be in.

And what will you get for all that effort? Internet access, nothing
more, that you could have gotten more easily from several wide-open
SSIDs in the neighborhood.

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Old 07-27-2010, 12:27 AM
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In article <i2l69g$sfo$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Think about it. If your desire to get into my system is sufficient that
> you sit around and wait for someone else to get in, then make the effort
> to spoof their MAC, then take the time to crack the WEP, then when that
> doesn't work it will probably not take long for you to figure out why
> (but I'm not telling) and then you'll be in.


the point is that mac address filtering adds nothing if you have some
other form of protection, even if it's wep.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:27 AM
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"Gernot Frisch" <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:8b4rvpFb5aU1@mid.individual.net:

>
>> enable wpa encryption with a good passphrase. if you've already done
>> that, then mac address filtering doesn't offer you any benefit.

>
> My kid's got an DSi, which can do WPA2. My Wii also. Or is that
> connected by cable. I can't remmeber off my mind.
>


Have you shut down your Wii base station and tried to connect your Wii
bluetooth to your iPhone or other BT device?

Wiimote makes a great game controller for computer games.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0oW5BWSG_w

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Old 07-27-2010, 07:27 AM
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The moron "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9DC1D4140982Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> "Gernot Frisch" <me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:8b4rvpFb5aU1@mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> enable wpa encryption with a good passphrase. if you've already done
> >> that, then mac address filtering doesn't offer you any benefit.

> >
> > My kid's got an DSi, which can do WPA2. My Wii also. Or is that
> > connected by cable. I can't remmeber off my mind.

>
> Have you shut down your Wii base station and tried to connect your Wii
> bluetooth to your iPhone or other BT device?
>
> Wiimote makes a great game controller for computer games.....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MORON


Please ignore the garbage posted above. Loser Larry is a brainless moron who
is ignorant of any actual facts and an inability to understand even the
simplest concepts of reality. The links he posts are more likely to give
your Windows PC a virus or lead to his favourite porn site.


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