Your Name

Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the App
Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
asylum. :-(

From MacRumors.com ...

App Store Director Revealed to Be Former Fart App Developer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------
Wired has discovered that Phillip Shoemaker, Apple's Director
of Applications Technology for the App Store, is a former App
Store developer himself who has a handful of applications,
several of which fall into the category of low-brow fart and
urination humor, still available for sale. Shoemaker's App Store
development work was handled under the name GrayNoodle
LLC.

"Simulate the experience of urinating for a long time," iWiz's
app description reads in iTunes. "Convince your friends that
you'll never stop. iWiz allows you to simulate urination: faster,
slower, or just a trickle."

The game Animal Farts features various cartoon images of
animals with their buttocks facing forward, giving users buttons
to trigger "Fart," "Poot," "Drop" or "Wiz" sounds accompanied
with animations illustrating said emissions.

According to an Apple spokeswoman, all of
Shoemaker's applications had been approved prior
to his employment with Apple.

"Phillip's apps were written, submitted and
approved before he became an Apple employee,"
an Apple spokeswoman said in a statement. "His
experience and perspective as a developer is one
of the valuable things he brings to Apple's
developer relations team. Apple's policy allows
for employees to have apps on the App Store if
they're developed and published prior to their start
at Apple."

Apple's statement is apparently contradicted, however, by App
Store data showing that three of his applications debuted in the
App Store up to six weeks after Shoemaker had tweeted that
he was working for Apple in early March 2009.

Shoemaker's LinkedIn profile prior to removal of GrayNoodle
reference

Since the publication of Wired's article, Shoemaker has deleted
his Twitter accounts and updated his LinkedIn page to remove
mention of his connection to GrayNoodle and the apps in
question.


What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature fool
was actually a good idea?!?! :-(

Jolly Roger

In article <i4hjuf$i2g$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
"Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:

> Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the App
> Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
> asylum. :-(
>
> What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature fool
> was actually a good idea?!?! :-(

You know absolutely nothing about his qualifications.

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Larry

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
EEFA33.16450818082010@news.individual.net:

> This is like letting kids run the candy store

The man in charge of the candy store has always acted like a kid.

So, this makes sense.....sort of.....I suppose.

I wanna see the video of him having a temper tantrum about IP4 antennas....
(c;]


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Larry

Your Name

In article <jollyroger-EEFA33.16450818082010@news.individual.net>, Jolly
Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <i4hjuf$i2g$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
> "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the App
> > Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
> > asylum. :-(
> >
> > What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature fool
> > was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
>
> You know absolutely nothing about his qualifications.

His qualifications are largely irrelevant - he shot himself in the foot
producing immature garbage.

Jason S

On 2010-08-18 22:01:11 -0400, Your Name said:

> In article <jollyroger-EEFA33.16450818082010@news.individual.net>, Jolly
> Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <i4hjuf$i2g$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
>> "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the App
>>> Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
>>> asylum. :-(
>>>
>>> What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature fool
>>> was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
>>
>> You know absolutely nothing about his qualifications.
>
> His qualifications are largely irrelevant - he shot himself in the foot
> producing immature garbage.

Wrong. If he's capable of doing the job, I really don't think it should
matter if he made a fart app.

--
Jason

Todd Allcock

At 19 Aug 2010 09:41:28 +1200 Your Name wrote:
> Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the
App
> Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
> asylum. :-(
>
> From MacRumors.com ...
>
> App Store Director Revealed to Be Former Fart App Developer
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> ------------------
> Wired has discovered that Phillip Shoemaker, Apple's Director
> of Applications Technology for the App Store, is a former App
> Store developer himself who has a handful of applications,
> several of which fall into the category of low-brow fart and
> urination humor, still available for sale. Shoemaker's App Store
> development work was handled under the name GrayNoodle
> LLC.
>
> "Simulate the experience of urinating for a long time," iWiz's
> app description reads in iTunes. "Convince your friends that
> you'll never stop. iWiz allows you to simulate urination: faster,
> slower, or just a trickle."
>
> The game Animal Farts features various cartoon images of
> animals with their buttocks facing forward, giving users buttons
> to trigger "Fart," "Poot," "Drop" or "Wiz" sounds accompanied
> with animations illustrating said emissions.
>
> According to an Apple spokeswoman, all of
> Shoemaker's applications had been approved prior
> to his employment with Apple.
>
> "Phillip's apps were written, submitted and
> approved before he became an Apple employee,"
> an Apple spokeswoman said in a statement. "His
> experience and perspective as a developer is one
> of the valuable things he brings to Apple's
> developer relations team. Apple's policy allows
> for employees to have apps on the App Store if
> they're developed and published prior to their start
> at Apple."
>
> Apple's statement is apparently contradicted, however, by App
> Store data showing that three of his applications debuted in the
> App Store up to six weeks after Shoemaker had tweeted that
> he was working for Apple in early March 2009.
>
> Shoemaker's LinkedIn profile prior to removal of GrayNoodle
> reference
>
> Since the publication of Wired's article, Shoemaker has deleted
> his Twitter accounts and updated his LinkedIn page to remove
> mention of his connection to GrayNoodle and the apps in
> question.
>
>
> What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature
fool
> was actually a good idea?!?! :-(


What makes you think _he's_ immature just because he sold apps to people
who were?

It could be easily argued he's a genius who tapped into the iPhone
Zeitgeist like few others have.

There are a lot of exellent apps for iOS, but get a group of iPhone
owners around a water cooler and they're not talking about those- they're
showing off fart and beer chugging apps.

Your Name

"Jason S" <jasonsavlov@me.com> wrote in message
news:2010081909120243044-jasonsavlov@mecom...
> On 2010-08-18 22:01:11 -0400, Your Name said:
>
> > In article <jollyroger-EEFA33.16450818082010@news.individual.net>, Jolly
> > Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <i4hjuf$i2g$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
> >> "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the
App
> >>> Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run
the
> >>> asylum. :-(
> >>>
> >>> What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature
fool
> >>> was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
> >>
> >> You know absolutely nothing about his qualifications.
> >
> > His qualifications are largely irrelevant - he shot himself in the foot
> > producing immature garbage.
>
> Wrong. If he's capable of doing the job, I really don't think it should
> matter if he made a fart app.

Yep, and a convicted rapist should be employed as the women's Olympic Team
massuese simply because he's achieve top grades in his massage class. :-\

People doing the employing should be looking at everything about that
person, not just qualifications - maybe if the idiots in management actually
did that, then:
a. the planet would not be going down the tubes,
b. the human race wouldn't be getting dumber by the second,
c. there would be far fewer idiots in management positions.

Your Name

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:K4cbo.28312$RZ1.12350@newsfe24.iad...
> At 19 Aug 2010 09:41:28 +1200 Your Name wrote:
> > Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for the
> App
> > Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run the
> > asylum. :-(
> >
> > From MacRumors.com ...
> >
> > App Store Director Revealed to Be Former Fart App Developer
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > ------------------
> > Wired has discovered that Phillip Shoemaker, Apple's Director
> > of Applications Technology for the App Store, is a former App
> > Store developer himself who has a handful of applications,
> > several of which fall into the category of low-brow fart and
> > urination humor, still available for sale. Shoemaker's App Store
> > development work was handled under the name GrayNoodle
> > LLC.
> >
> > "Simulate the experience of urinating for a long time," iWiz's
> > app description reads in iTunes. "Convince your friends that
> > you'll never stop. iWiz allows you to simulate urination: faster,
> > slower, or just a trickle."
> >
> > The game Animal Farts features various cartoon images of
> > animals with their buttocks facing forward, giving users buttons
> > to trigger "Fart," "Poot," "Drop" or "Wiz" sounds accompanied
> > with animations illustrating said emissions.
> >
> > According to an Apple spokeswoman, all of
> > Shoemaker's applications had been approved prior
> > to his employment with Apple.
> >
> > "Phillip's apps were written, submitted and
> > approved before he became an Apple employee,"
> > an Apple spokeswoman said in a statement. "His
> > experience and perspective as a developer is one
> > of the valuable things he brings to Apple's
> > developer relations team. Apple's policy allows
> > for employees to have apps on the App Store if
> > they're developed and published prior to their start
> > at Apple."
> >
> > Apple's statement is apparently contradicted, however, by App
> > Store data showing that three of his applications debuted in the
> > App Store up to six weeks after Shoemaker had tweeted that
> > he was working for Apple in early March 2009.
> >
> > Shoemaker's LinkedIn profile prior to removal of GrayNoodle
> > reference
> >
> > Since the publication of Wired's article, Shoemaker has deleted
> > his Twitter accounts and updated his LinkedIn page to remove
> > mention of his connection to GrayNoodle and the apps in
> > question.
> >
> >
> > What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this immature
> fool
> > was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
>
>
> What makes you think _he's_ immature just because he sold apps to people
> who were?
>
> It could be easily argued he's a genius who tapped into the iPhone
> Zeitgeist like few others have.
>
> There are a lot of exellent apps for iOS, but get a group of iPhone
> owners around a water cooler and they're not talking about those- they're
> showing off fart and beer chugging apps.

And if this fool thinks those are good apps, then that's exactly what's
going to start flooding in as "approved". :-(

Todd Allcock

At 20 Aug 2010 09:09:50 +1200 Your Name wrote:
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:K4cbo.28312$RZ1.12350@newsfe24.iad...
> > At 19 Aug 2010 09:41:28 +1200 Your Name wrote:
> > > Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for
the
> > App
> > > Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry run
the
> > > asylum. :-(
> > >
> > > From MacRumors.com ...
> > >
> > > App Store Director Revealed to Be Former Fart App Developer
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
----
> > ----
> > > ------------------
> > > Wired has discovered that Phillip Shoemaker, Apple's Director
> > > of Applications Technology for the App Store, is a former App
> > > Store developer himself who has a handful of applications,
> > > several of which fall into the category of low-brow fart and
> > > urination humor, still available for sale. Shoemaker's App Store
> > > development work was handled under the name GrayNoodle
> > > LLC.
> > >
> > > "Simulate the experience of urinating for a long time," iWiz's
> > > app description reads in iTunes. "Convince your friends that
> > > you'll never stop. iWiz allows you to simulate urination: faster,

> > > slower, or just a trickle."
> > >
> > > The game Animal Farts features various cartoon images of
> > > animals with their buttocks facing forward, giving users buttons
> > > to trigger "Fart," "Poot," "Drop" or "Wiz" sounds accompanied
> > > with animations illustrating said emissions.
> > >
> > > According to an Apple spokeswoman, all of
> > > Shoemaker's applications had been approved prior
> > > to his employment with Apple.
> > >
> > > "Phillip's apps were written, submitted and
> > > approved before he became an Apple employee,"
> > > an Apple spokeswoman said in a statement. "His
> > > experience and perspective as a developer is one
> > > of the valuable things he brings to Apple's
> > > developer relations team. Apple's policy allows
> > > for employees to have apps on the App Store if
> > > they're developed and published prior to their start
> > > at Apple."
> > >
> > > Apple's statement is apparently contradicted, however, by App
> > > Store data showing that three of his applications debuted in the
> > > App Store up to six weeks after Shoemaker had tweeted that
> > > he was working for Apple in early March 2009.
> > >
> > > Shoemaker's LinkedIn profile prior to removal of GrayNoodle
> > > reference
> > >
> > > Since the publication of Wired's article, Shoemaker has deleted
> > > his Twitter accounts and updated his LinkedIn page to remove
> > > mention of his connection to GrayNoodle and the apps in
> > > question.
> > >
> > >
> > > What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this
immature
> > fool
> > > was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
> >
> >
> > What makes you think _he's_ immature just because he sold apps to
people
> > who were?
> >
> > It could be easily argued he's a genius who tapped into the iPhone
> > Zeitgeist like few others have.
> >
> > There are a lot of exellent apps for iOS, but get a group of iPhone
> > owners around a water cooler and they're not talking about those-
they're
> > showing off fart and beer chugging apps.
>
> And if this fool thinks those are good apps, then that's exactly what's
> going to start flooding in as "approved". :-(


And if his job is to maximize Apple's profits, he should be approving
anything legal that will sell well, regardless of how childish _you_
think it is. Fart apps sell. That's a reflection on the childishness of
the buyer far more than it is the seller.

Todd Allcock

At 20 Aug 2010 09:09:07 +1200 Your Name wrote:
>
> "Jason S" <jasonsavlov@me.com> wrote in message
> news:2010081909120243044-jasonsavlov@mecom...
> > On 2010-08-18 22:01:11 -0400, Your Name said:
> >
> > > In article <jollyroger-EEFA33.16450818082010@news.individual.net>,
Jolly
> > > Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <i4hjuf$i2g$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
> > >> "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Is it going to be all downhill (or down the toilet) from here for
the
> App
> > >>> Store?? This is like letting kids run the candy store, or Larry
run
> the
> > >>> asylum. :-(
> > >>>
> > >>> What kind of management imbecile thought that employing this
immature
> fool
> > >>> was actually a good idea?!?! :-(
> > >>
> > >> You know absolutely nothing about his qualifications.
> > >
> > > His qualifications are largely irrelevant - he shot himself in the
foot
> > > producing immature garbage.
> >
> > Wrong. If he's capable of doing the job, I really don't think it
should
> > matter if he made a fart app.
>
> Yep, and a convicted rapist should be employed as the women's Olympic
Team
> massuese simply because he's achieve top grades in his massage class.
:-\


Good analogy- comparing a criminal who physically hurts people, to a
businessman who sold a legal, if silly, product. (IIRC, he isn't a
developer, but commissioned a dev to write the app for his company. I
may be wrong, though, and might be confusing him with another fart app
vendor- "The Daily Show" once did a pretty funny segment about the "war"
between the two competing fart apps, with each seller interviewed
explaining the features of his fart app and why it was superior to the
other.)


> People doing the employing should be looking at everything about that
> person, not just qualifications - maybe if the idiots in management
actually
> did that, then:
> a. the planet would not be going down the tubes,
> b. the human race wouldn't be getting dumber by the second,
> c. there would be far fewer idiots in management positions.


I seem to recall that fart app generated several hundred thousands of
dollars in revenue, and the "fool" in question was a successful marketer
prior to creating his iPhone app company.


It's like the Snake Oil peddlers a century ago, or today's Three Card
Monty dealers: the peddlers were the smart ones, his customers are the
fools.