Howard Brazee

I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
junk.





(I already told http://www.apple.com/feedback/ )

Michelle Steiner

In article <rjemh712dgplleb3c5fissqfcf9vg4so9n@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> wrote:

> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
> junk.

I have a separate email account that I've given only to relatives and
regular correspondents; I've yet to receive even one piece of junk mail at
that account. It's the account I have on my iPhone and iPad.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Howard Brazee

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:01:42 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
>> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
>> junk.
>
>I have a separate email account that I've given only to relatives and
>regular correspondents; I've yet to receive even one piece of junk mail at
>that account. It's the account I have on my iPhone and iPad.

Yeah, I have an account like that too. But it only has a small
minority of my e-mail.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Ed Anson

On 1/21/12 5:23 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>
>
> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
> junk.

I'd love that, too. But until that happens, I forward my mail to gmail
-- which has pretty good spam filters. So I use the Mac filters on my
Mac and gmail's filters on my iPhone. It's not perfect, but at least I
have relatively spam free email on my iPhone.

But I'm with you. I can't understand why the Mac filters don't sync with
the iPhone.

BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> writes:
> On 1/21/12 5:23 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:

>> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
>> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much

> But I'm with you. I can't understand why the Mac filters don't sync
> with the iPhone.

If your mac is up and running at home, it'll apply the filters
all by itself. Unfortunately, since most mail providers don't
let you do much in the way of filtering at the server level,
we are left with that alternative. Filtering at the client
level means redundant filters (ie. on your mac and
on your iPad/phone).

My preference: a mail service that allows me to filter at
the server, rather than at the client level. I use Fastmail.fm
and have all my filtering done before my mail client ever
sees the mail (with the exception of the few things that it
misses). Moreover, if I want their filters to learn a little
bit better, I've designated the Junk folder - at the server
level - as an official junk folder. Anything I move into
there on my own via any client helps train their system.
(And anything I leave or move into Inbox, I've told it to
recognize explicitly as not-spam, so it gets training in
that way, too).

Anyway, those are your options. Leave your mac running
at home or get a better mail service provider. For me,
the choice was easy.

--
Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.

Todd Allcock

At 21 Jan 2012 22:34:25 -0500 Ed Anson wrote:
> On 1/21/12 5:23 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
> > As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
> > junk.
>
> I'd love that, too. But until that happens, I forward my mail to gmail -
> - which has pretty good spam filters. So I use the Mac filters on my
> Mac and gmail's filters on my iPhone. It's not perfect, but at least I
> have relatively spam free email on my iPhone.
>
> But I'm with you. I can't understand why the Mac filters don't sync
> with the iPhone.


There are two pretty easy solutions, depending on what your email
provider supports.

1) Server-side rules. You set up your spam filters at the provider itself,
so the spam is filtered before the email is delivered.

2) Use IMAP. With IMAP, you can set your Mac mail client to filter the
mail, which would remove them from the server so the iOS device would not
fetch the spam.

Honestly, it's 2012. There's no good reason to still be using POP in
this day and age.

Wes Groleau

On 01-22-2012 00:00, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:
> Ed Anson<EdAnson@comcast.net> writes:
>> On 1/21/12 5:23 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>>> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
>>> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
>
>> But I'm with you. I can't understand why the Mac filters don't sync
>> with the iPhone.
>
> If your mac is up and running at home, it'll apply the filters
> all by itself. Unfortunately, since most mail providers don't

If the account is GMail (and probably any other IMAP account), any
actions taken by mail in response to rules will immediately reflect back
to the server, and will be replicated on your iPhone when you wake it
up. I have seen e-mails on the iPad, deleted them on the Mac, and seen
them vanish from the iPad. If the iPad was asleep when an email
arrived, and I deleted it from the Mac, it never gets downloaded to the
iPad at all. (Well, it does, but direct to the trash folder.)

--
Wes Groleau

“There are more people worthy of blame
than there is blame to go around."

BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> writes:
> On 01-22-2012 00:00, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:
>> Ed Anson<EdAnson@comcast.net> writes:
>>> On 1/21/12 5:23 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>>>> I'd love, love, love to have my iPhone use my Mac's junk mail rules.
>>>> As it is, I don't use remote mail unless I'm on vacation. Too much
>>
>>> But I'm with you. I can't understand why the Mac filters don't sync
>>> with the iPhone.
>>
>> If your mac is up and running at home, it'll apply the filters
>> all by itself. Unfortunately, since most mail providers don't
>
> If the account is GMail (and probably any other IMAP account), any
> actions taken by mail in response to rules will immediately reflect
> back to the server, and will be replicated on your iPhone when you

Exactly the point. But, of course, if your Mac is not running,
then your filters which live on the mac won't be applied.

Howard and Ed can just leave their Macs running if they don't
have access to server-level filtering.


--
Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.

Michelle Steiner

In article <jfg5vf$ima$1@dont-email.me>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> Honestly, it's 2012. There's no good reason to still be using POP in
> this day and age.

Sure there is; my provider for michelle.org doesn't offer IMAP except for
its most expensive tier.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Howard Brazee

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:58:19 -0700, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>There are two pretty easy solutions, depending on what your email
>provider supports.
>
>1) Server-side rules. You set up your spam filters at the provider itself,
>so the spam is filtered before the email is delivered.

They help a bit. But the one I tried didn't have an easy way to
select an e-mail and add it to the server side spam algorithm.

>2) Use IMAP. With IMAP, you can set your Mac mail client to filter the
>mail, which would remove them from the server so the iOS device would not
>fetch the spam.

That would work when I leave my computer on. But do I want to leave
my computer on when I'm on vacation (when I need my IOS device's
e-mail the most)?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison