JF Mezei

OK, so with IOS-5, you don't need a Mac or PC to activate the device.

But what about someone with Linux (no mac or PC). How would they be able
to transfer music to their device ?

Will icloud have a platform neutral way to upload music/movies so they
then get sent to the device ?

Or will Linux user continue to be "iPad" impaired ?

Davoud

JF Mezei:
> OK, so with IOS-5, you don't need a Mac or PC to activate the device.

> But what about someone with Linux (no mac or PC). How would they be able
> to transfer music to their device ?

> Will icloud have a platform neutral way to upload music/movies so they
> then get sent to the device ?
>
> Or will Linux user continue to be "iPad" impaired ?

Anyone who is tech-savvy enough to choose Linux knows going in that
s/he will be greatly impaired in many pursuits that users of mainstream
OS's -- Mac OS and Windows -- take for granted.

They find their workarounds sometimes, and tell themselves that a
less-than-third-rate program like GIMP is as good as Photoshop, but
they're kidding themselves.

Considering that they could have their Unix and iTunes and Photoshop
simultaneously in one box -- any Mac -- one has to wonder if some Linux
users choose Linux for masochistic reasons.

Davoud

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Your Name

In article <4e9116b2$0$3916$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.co m>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> OK, so with IOS-5, you don't need a Mac or PC to activate the device.
>
> But what about someone with Linux (no mac or PC). How would they be able
> to transfer music to their device ?
>
> Will icloud have a platform neutral way to upload music/movies so they
> then get sent to the device ?
>
> Or will Linux user continue to be "iPad" impaired ?

Yes, iOS and iCloud will make iPods / iPhones / iPads completely
independent of any computer. Music / movies / apps are sent direct to the
device and the iCloud can back it all up ... no need for a computer at
all.

The exception being if you want to do something like "rip" your own CDs,
then you will still need a Mac or Windows computer running iTunes software
to connect the device to.

JF Mezei

Your Name wrote:

> The exception being if you want to do something like "rip" your own CDs,
> then you will still need a Mac or Windows computer running iTunes software
> to connect the device to.

Perhaps my friend then needs to wait for iPad3 which could solve this
with either USB disk support, or a built in SD card reader.

For instance, if the IPad allowed one to import music/videos/photos from
a USB stick, it would still hide the internal file system, while
allowing the iPad to be truly independent of a host computer.

OR, if users could upload their ripped CDs to iCloud via the web so they
would then go onto their iPad.

Davoud

JF Mezei:
> Perhaps my friend then needs to wait for iPad3 which could solve this
> with either USB disk support, or a built in SD card reader.

Or, if not 3, then perhaps 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or....

Or, your friend could just give it up and buy a personal computer.

Davoud

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JF Mezei

Davoud wrote:

> Or, your friend could just give it up and buy a personal computer.


He is a Linux guy. I am trying to convince him to get an Ipad for his 2
sons and wife.

I have to try to be as pragmatic as possible and hide my allegiance to
the Church of Apple so that I don't look too biased.

Your Name

In article <4e9147d9$0$32548$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.c om>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
> >
> > The exception being if you want to do something like "rip" your own CDs,
> > then you will still need a Mac or Windows computer running iTunes software
> > to connect the device to.
>
> Perhaps my friend then needs to wait for iPad3 which could solve this
> with either USB disk support, or a built in SD card reader.
>
> For instance, if the IPad allowed one to import music/videos/photos from
> a USB stick, it would still hide the internal file system, while
> allowing the iPad to be truly independent of a host computer.
>
> OR, if users could upload their ripped CDs to iCloud via the web so they
> would then go onto their iPad.

I haven't looked into it fully yet, but I would guess that iCloud access
is only via iOS or iTunes (Mac OS and Windows). There may or may not be
unofficial Linux software for accessing iOS and / or iTunes.

You can of course get external storage devices to use with iOS devices,
which may be a way around the Linux problem ... if those storage devices
can also be connected to the computer in some way.

Davoud

Davoud wrote:
> > Or, your friend could just give it up and buy a personal computer.

JF Mezei:
> He is a Linux guy. I am trying to convince him to get an Ipad for his 2
> sons and wife.

I wouldn't bother trying to convince him of anything. He sounds like an
OS hobbyist, not a user. Sheesh! He denies his family the experience of
using personal computers by not letting them have a real computer? OK.
sad, but not my business. Even with iCloud, they won't enjoy an iPad if
they don't have a computer, Mac OS or Windows, for adding ripped CD's
and DVD's, home video, and the like.

> I have to try to be as pragmatic as possible and hide my allegiance to
> the Church of Apple so that I don't look too biased.

You know me--11 Macs. But in this situation if I were advising I would
tell him to get his family a computer, whether Mac or cheap-o
PeeCee--so long as its not Linux.

Davoud

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Davoud

Davoud wrote:
> > Or, your friend could just give it up and buy a personal computer.

JF Mezei:
> He is a Linux guy. I am trying to convince him to get an Ipad for his 2
> sons and wife.

I wouldn't bother trying to convince him of anything. He sounds like an
OS hobbyist, not a user. Sheesh! He denies his family the experience of
using personal computers by not letting them have a real computer? OK.
sad, but not my business. Even with iCloud, they won't enjoy an iPad if
they don't have a computer, Mac OS or Windows, for adding ripped CD's
and DVD's, home video, and the like.

> I have to try to be as pragmatic as possible and hide my allegiance to
> the Church of Apple so that I don't look too biased.

You know me--11 Macs. But in this situation if I were advising I would
tell him to get his family a computer, whether Mac or cheap-o
PeeCee--so long as its not Linux.

Davoud

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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