Jolly Roger

In article <4c73f975$0$22174$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> The bottom line is that without Flash you are unable to access a large
> percentage of web content.

It's obvious nobody cares. Move on.

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Larry

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:73Ico.32$LL1.8
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> Perhaps, but for most people, "Flash" = "Flash video."
>
>

One cool, completely Flash, Smart car website:

http://www.truthaboutsmart.co.uk/

leave it run for an hour after you've done with the movies and content.
Every once in a while, he still says funny stuff as if they left the mic
open in his office the rest of the day.....

No, I haven't tried to hit my Smart with a wrecking ball to see if it
works....(c;]

UK dryers must be smaller than American dryers.....

Jolly Roger

In article <Xns9DE27E8F69F92noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4c73f975$0$22174
> $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
> > The bottom line is that without Flash you are unable to access a large
> > percentage of web content.
>
> ....and if every Apple customer never accessed Flash again, noone would
> really care......
>
> This delusion that the world cares so much for Apple fans is truly
> laughable.

As usual, you're full of pure shit.

The reality is the world does actually care. And they would be stupid
(like you) not to care:

USA TODAY, the nation's second largest newspaper, is making the most
dramatic overhaul of its staff in its 28-year history as it ramps up its
effort to reach more readers and advertisers on mobile devices.

"We'll focus less on print ... and more on producing content for all
platforms (Web, mobile, iPad and other digital formats)," according to a
slide show presented Thursday to USA Today's staff. The AP obtained copy
of the presentation.

Although USA TODAY still makes most of its money from its print edition,
the reorganization revolves around smart phones and computer tablets
such as Apple Inc.'s iPad, which are creating new ways to sell
subscriptions and advertising.

"We have to go where the audience is," Hillkirk said. "If people are
hitting the iPad like crazy, or the iPhone or other mobile devices,
we've got to be there with the content they want, when they want it."

<http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/...estructuring_N.
htm>

<http://tinyurl.com/3a3gdqv>

You're a genuine fool, Loser Larry.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
6EDAC1.23141023082010@news.individual.net:

> It doesn't matter anymore. The battle is lost for Adobe. Flash, like it
> or not, will remain largely irrelevant for mobile devices. And that's as
> it should be.
>
>

Don't you find it even remotely odd that Nokia's old Linux tablets had
Flash up and running just fine, long ago?

Very few Flash games and websites won't play on a Maemo Diablo OS'd Nokia
N800 internet tablet in the standard browser that it came with.

Of course, being 800 pixels wide makes some difference.

Jolly Roger

In article <Xns9DE27FC2F9002noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
> 6EDAC1.23141023082010@news.individual.net:
>
> > It doesn't matter anymore. The battle is lost for Adobe. Flash, like it
> > or not, will remain largely irrelevant for mobile devices. And that's as
> > it should be.
>
> Don't you find it even remotely odd that Nokia's old Linux tablets had
> Flash up and running just fine, long ago?
>
> Very few Flash games and websites won't play on a Maemo Diablo OS'd Nokia
> N800 internet tablet in the standard browser that it came with.
>
> Of course, being 800 pixels wide makes some difference.

Odd? Not at all. Such shitty software is common on crappy Linux tablets
like that. No surprise there.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
F71C50.11353828082010@news.individual.net:

> Odd? Not at all. Such shitty software is common on crappy Linux tablets
> like that. No surprise there.
>

Rog! I see you're well and still guarding the shithouse!

Jolly Roger

In article <Xns9DE28D0CC54FDnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> I am a complete moron, and I eat my own feces!

Thanks for sharing, dingbat.

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Todd Allcock

At 28 Aug 2010 16:31:55 +0000 Larry wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
> 6EDAC1.23141023082010@news.individual.net:
>
> > It doesn't matter anymore. The battle is lost for Adobe. Flash, like
it
> > or not, will remain largely irrelevant for mobile devices. And that's
as
> > it should be.
> >
> >
>
> Don't you find it even remotely odd that Nokia's old Linux tablets had
> Flash up and running just fine, long ago?


So did WinMo, back when Macromedia was in charge of it. Flash 5-7
players worked quite well. When Adobe took the reigns, mobile support of
"real" flash was scuttled, and the development of Flash Lite begun,
probably considered a way to further monetize mobile devices.


> Very few Flash games and websites won't play on a Maemo Diablo OS'd
Nokia
> N800 internet tablet in the standard browser that it came with.

The N800 has hardware cursor keys, though- I found the flash-bashing
article funny when complaining mouse/arrow-key based games didn't work
with on a touchscreen. What's next? Complaining flash videos on foreign
websites don't play in English?


> Of course, being 800 pixels wide makes some difference.


True. In my case, 800 pixels hurts rather than helps: I can't use the
WinMo Flash 7 plugin on my Sony Xperia X1- all Flash 7 content plays in a
little 320x240 box, (the highest WinMo res in the days the plug-in was
released) in the top left corner of my 800x480 display, (not that there's
much left on the web that runs in Flash 7 these days, so it's no great
loss!)

I use the Skyfire browser for Flash on WinMo. It's a server-based
browser that renders the Flash content on their end, and sends just the
A/V output to the device, overcoming the battery and performance issues
trying to render Flash on the device, at the expense of speed.
(Painfully slow frame rates, but preferable to no access to the content,
IMO, unless you have some sort of anti-Flash axe to grind, I suppose.)

Malcolm

On 2010-08-28 12:29:04 -0400, Larry said:

> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:73Ico.32$LL1.8
> @newsfe24.iad:
>
>> Perhaps, but for most people, "Flash" = "Flash video."
>>
>>
>
> One cool, completely Flash, Smart car website:
>
> http://www.truthaboutsmart.co.uk/
>
> leave it run for an hour after you've done with the movies and content.
> Every once in a while, he still says funny stuff as if they left the mic
> open in his office the rest of the day.....
>
> No, I haven't tried to hit my Smart with a wrecking ball to see if it
> works....(c;]
>
> UK dryers must be smaller than American dryers.....

They do provide a "html version" link at the bottom-right, so Flash
can't be that essential.

JF Mezei

Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <4c73f975$0$22174$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The bottom line is that without Flash you are unable to access a large
>> percentage of web content.
>
> It's obvious nobody cares. Move on.


Excuse me ? The fact is undeniable. Iphone may have "Safari" that
pretends to be able to access all of the web, but like it or not,
without Flash, a lot of the web is rather useless on ios.

Apple has made a bet that it can win agains this big drawback. And so
far, it doesn't seem to have hurt it too much.

At the end of the day, despite Apple's hype about Safari on IOS, people
would like to have a MOBILE BROWSER, not a fancy Safari web engine that
displays glorified thumbnails of web pages where you need a microscope
to read the text because Apple refuses to reflow the page as is intended
by the HTML standards.

It is all well when his Lordship Jobs is on a sofa during a keynote and
his iphoen is plugged into a giant IMAX screen that everyone can read.
But if you are on a bus, train or any moving vehicle, the tiny fonts on
the iphone make it unreadable unless you have a microscope with you.

The goal should not to impress people at the keynote, it should be to
make a usable device in real life. And in real life, a glorified
thumbnail of a web page is useless. You want the text of that web page
to be readable without having to constantly make fancy finger gestures
to zoom in and out.