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In article <ctGdnUv4C8j5Y-PRnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@giganews.com>, Allistar
<me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:

> > the list is not running tasks, it's recently used apps. the user might
> > want to go back to an app they used the day or week before, and since
> > it's suspended, it instantly resumes. if it had been shut down, it
> > would need to relaunch, which is slower.
>
> Which implies that every app on that list is consuming a certain amount of
> resources.

it uses a little memory but if ios needs it back it will automatically
terminate them, presumably least recently used.

> It would be nice to be able to control it so those resources were
> freed when the app is closed. When I run an app for the first time on my
> iPhone, I don't notice any delay - it's pretty much instant.

depends on the app. some have long startup times. however, with
suspend/resume, you go back to exactly where you left off, so even if
the app does start quickly you still save time in getting back to where
you were, assuming that's possible.

JF Mezei

Michelle Steiner wrote:

> I don't bother to close them; don't see the need.

I like to "cleanup" once in a while. Also, if I turn on 3G data, I want
to end all apps that could use it, so that only the app I start will use
the expensive 3G data while it is on.

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In article <4c7f08f4$0$2107$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> In fact, if you roam, you'd want to turn off any/all push notifiocation
> communications because every kilobyte will cost you dearly.

or just disable data entirely.

JKConey

"I See" <mouchie@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:8e7tnrFo5bU1@mid.individual.net...
> Yeah, 'Remove Recents'
>
> Add the SinfuliPhone repo and install 'Multifl0w cracked' and 'Disable
> iOS4 MultiTasking' .... way better than the crappy native 4 switching.
>


Mine is called Remove Background. I like the "multitasking" and like this
way of closing them all down at once.


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JKConey

"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:michelle-01AD00.15213701092010@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <i5met2$6rj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Seems like when I'm wishing there was a way to get something done,
>> whoosh
>> it appears on Cydia. I was thinking how annoying it is to keep closing
>> down all the open "links" on the multitasking bar one by one. Just
>> popped up an app that closes them all at once with one push of my
>> choice. Nothing major, but one more reason I'm happy being jailbroken.
>
> I don't bother to close them; don't see the need.
>


You don't see any battery life degrading, even with a couple dozen open?


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Michelle Steiner

In article <i5n9o9$irg$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:

> You don't see any battery life degrading, even with a couple dozen open?

Not any more than with none open.

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JF Mezei

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <i5n9o9$irg$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> You don't see any battery life degrading, even with a couple dozen open?
>
> Not any more than with none open.


In real life perhaps. But if you have enabled SSH deamon, you should
note that you can still connect to your iphone even if it is asleep (I
think there may be time limit after which the deamon is also put to sleep).

So technically, background apps can consume CPU power while your unit is
asleep. Apple has done a fair job of limiting this and preventing some
run-away infinite loop forcing CPU to run at 100% even if the unit is
asleep (which would drain battery quickly).

David Empson

Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:

> nospam wrote:
>
> > In article <bpydncOMz_TNTuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Allistar
> > <me@hiddenaddress.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> it appears on Cydia. I was thinking how annoying it is to keep closing
> >> >> down all the open "links" on the multitasking bar one by one. Just
> >> >> popped up an app that closes them all at once with one push of my
> >> >> choice. Nothing major, but one more reason I'm happy being jailbroken.
> >> >
> >> > I don't bother to close them; don't see the need.
> >>
> >> I would have expected a running app to be automatically closed after a
> >> certain amount of time of not being used (say, 5 minutes?) What's the
> >> logic in leaving them open (or at least, having them appear in the
> >> running tasks list)?
> >
> > apps are suspended, so it doesn't matter if it's 5 minutes or 5 days.
> > they are not running, except for specific types of apps such as
> > background audio or gps navigation.
> >
> > the list is not running tasks, it's recently used apps. the user might
> > want to go back to an app they used the day or week before, and since
> > it's suspended, it instantly resumes. if it had been shut down, it
> > would need to relaunch, which is slower.
>
> Which implies that every app on that list is consuming a certain amount of
> resources.

Except that they may not be (apart from the simple list keeping track of
which apps have been launched, which has barely any overhead).

The app will only be suspended and held in RAM for as long as it suits
the OS to do so. If the OS needs the memory for something else (such as
the user running another memory hungry app), suspended apps are dumped
from RAM and will have to be relaunched from flash if the user switches
back to them.

> It would be nice to be able to control it so those resources were
> freed when the app is closed. When I run an app for the first time on my
> iPhone, I don't notice any delay - it's pretty much instant.

For apps which can run in the background, I agree it would be nice to at
least have an indication that it is running.

For suspended apps, there is no need to be concerned at all.

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dempson@actrix.gen.nz

Your Name

Closing down all the running apps is easy-peasy ... simply turn the iPhone
off. ;-)

I See

JKConey wrote:
> "I See" <mouchie@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:8e7tnrFo5bU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Yeah, 'Remove Recents'
>>
>> Add the SinfuliPhone repo and install 'Multifl0w cracked' and
>> 'Disable iOS4 MultiTasking' .... way better than the crappy native
>> 4 switching.
>
>
> Mine is called Remove Background. I like the "multitasking" and
> like this way of closing them all down at once.

So it's all or nothing ?
Close the lot or use the retarded iOS4 MT to shut down individual apps ?

Have you tried Multifl0w - or are you unJB'n ?