JF Mezei

Your Name wrote:

> Who knows (or cares) about the useless company you use in Hong Kong, but
> there definitely are external batteries and power supplies that work with
> Apple's computers and mobile devices for the few people that actually want
> them. :-\


With laptops delivering more autonomy than in the past, the need for
external/additional batteries is less.

With places such as airplanes now providing outlets for laptops, the
need for external/additional batteries is much less.


And with laptops now ubiquitous, places such as conference rooms are
better equipped to let you plug in your laptop for the whole day.

Todd Allcock

At 07 Sep 2010 16:35:59 +1200 Your Name wrote:
> In article <13jho.62283$6o7.14292@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
> > At 04 Sep 2010 18:55:20 -0700 nospam wrote:
> > > In article <Xns9DE9DE96B577Cnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> > > <noone@home.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We COULD do that.....and put in a CHANGEABLE BATTERY so the
customer
> > > > could DECIDE if he wants to swap it!
> > >
> > > customers already decided that. most never buy a second battery for
> > > their cellphones or laptops.
> >
> > Just the ones who need one.
>
> So yet again people expect Apple (or any company) to put in features
that
> are wanted by tiny fractions of the users ... that's what Microsoft tend
> to do and it means you end up with bloated buggy expensive rubbish where
> 99.9% of people only ever use 1% of the features. :-\

I don't "expect" Apple to do anything. The lack of a feature I desire is
just a reason to shop competitors. Apple has done quite well with iPods
and iPhones despite not offering the feature, and good for them.

As long as consumers realize their product has a three-four year
lifespan, no harm done. My first gen Nano is down to about two hours of
playback, so it's been repurposed, along with an old speaker dock, as a
stationary "mini stereo" and my wife's iPhone no longer makes it through
a day of use- it needs recharging mid-day. That'll end up as an iPod
Touch for the kids shortly as soon as my wife's replacement arrives.


> I know someone who refuses to give up their database system from about
> 1990, so has to keep an old Mac running OS 8 around just to use it ...
> presumably Apple "must" keep Classic in Mac OS for the next 20 years
> simply to appease him. :-\

No, he just needs to keep using legacy equipment and software. If he
thinks of that old Mac as a "database machine" rather than a general
purpose computer, no harm done.
My business' legacy software is all MS-DOS- based from the early 90s, so
finding "legacy" hardware to run it is as simple as hitting the nearest
office supply store. The joys of backwards compatibility...

George Kerby

On 9/7/10 1:22 AM, in article i64lid$6pn$1@lust.ihug.co.nz, "Your Name"
<your.name@isp.com> wrote:

>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9DECD50AB7Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:060920102127493247%
>> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>>
>>> that's unusual. normal turnaround is 3-5 days and it's often the same
>>> or next day at an apple store. the only gotcha is if they're waiting on
>>> parts.
>>>
>>
>> The chief defender of the faith always has a snappy answer, even to his
>> own customers....
>>
>> The Apple notebooks also can't use the $22 9-cell monster battery from
>> the dealer in Hong Kong I buy from.
>
> Yet again Loser Larry proves his complete ignorance of everything.
>
> Who knows (or cares) about the useless company you use in Hong Kong, but
> there definitely are external batteries and power supplies that work with
> Apple's computers and mobile devices for the few people that actually want
> them. :-\
>
>
>
The reason they are cheap is because they leak poison. But ol' Lar' puts
that gooey stuff on his waffles, so he considers it an additional 'goody'.

DevilsPGD

In message <sehix-E308D4.21525406092010@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com> Steve Hix
<sehix@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> was claimed to have wrote:

>In article <DrJamesSidbury-8724B8.23580806092010@news.individual.net>,
> James Sidbury <DrJamesSidbury@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> most of the people I know with notebooks swap out their batteries.
>> Usually it's after two or three years when the battery needs to be
>> replaced.
>>
>> I would agree with your position provided that one could have
>> non-swappable batteries replaced in a very timely manner. I sent my
>> powerbook G4 in for repair under applecare three times. The first two
>> times I was without the machine for about 10 days. The third time Apple
>> kept it for almost a month before returning it. With swappable
>> batteries you don't necessarily lose use of your system at all.
>
>Your argument might have a bit more force, to say nothing of credibility, if
>you'd used a different example.
>
>The PowerBook G4 series *all* had user-swappable batteries.

I'm pretty sure his point is that requiring service on the device
involves a rather significant period of time without the device.

DevilsPGD

In message <Xns9DEC797E819EDnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13> Larry
<noone@home.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:vBrho.182996
>$1F6.46220@newsfe01.iad:
>
>> That'll end up as an iPod
>> Touch for the kids shortly as soon as my wife's replacement arrives.
>>
>
>I wonder how much of ATT's loading problem is old iPhones no longer
>producing revenue but STILL connecting to the towers and "checking in",
>even without their SIMS, being used like yours as an MP3 player for the
>kids.....(c;]

"Virtually none" comes to mind.

It obviously doesn't take no resources, but compared to one guy using
Pandora for a 30 minute commute, I'd bet that old iPhones checking in
isn't even on the map.

Given the battery limits on the old iPhones, I'm guessing most people
figured out Airplane mode (with wifi enabled, if desired) is the way to
go anyway.

SMS

On 9/6/2010 11:38 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> Who knows (or cares) about the useless company you use in Hong Kong, but
>> there definitely are external batteries and power supplies that work with
>> Apple's computers and mobile devices for the few people that actually want
>> them. :-\
>
>
> With laptops delivering more autonomy than in the past, the need for
> external/additional batteries is less.
>
> With places such as airplanes now providing outlets for laptops, the
> need for external/additional batteries is much less.
>
>
> And with laptops now ubiquitous, places such as conference rooms are
> better equipped to let you plug in your laptop for the whole day.

Issue is not external or additional batteries for longer run time. Few
people ever carry spare phone batteries. The issue is that Li-
Ion phone batteries do lose capacity over time. On a phone with a
removable battery you order a new battery and put it in. For popular
phone models, after-market batteries are available quite inexpensively.
On an iPhone, you have to send it in to the service center for battery
replacement, unless you have a place locally that will do battery
changes. Before the new iPod Touch was announced, I was considering a
used iPhone 2G instead (wanted the camera functionality). But all the
ones I saw advertised warned that the battery was not holding much of a
charge. The local service centers would not touch the 2G for battery
replacement as it was soldered in and very difficult to replace.

Michelle Steiner

In article <4c869059$0$1625$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Issue is not external or additional batteries for longer run time. Few
> people ever carry spare phone batteries. The issue is that Li- Ion phone
> batteries do lose capacity over time.

I believe that Apple has said that the iPhone's battery will lose about 20%
of its capacity over five years. In other words, it's not much of an issue.

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Your Name

"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C8ABBF90.3D060%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> On 9/7/10 1:22 AM, in article i64lid$6pn$1@lust.ihug.co.nz, "Your Name"
> <your.name@isp.com> wrote:
> > "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9DECD50AB7Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:060920102127493247%
> >> nospam@nospam.invalid:
> >>
> >>> that's unusual. normal turnaround is 3-5 days and it's often the same
> >>> or next day at an apple store. the only gotcha is if they're waiting
on
> >>> parts.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The chief defender of the faith always has a snappy answer, even to his
> >> own customers....
> >>
> >> The Apple notebooks also can't use the $22 9-cell monster battery from
> >> the dealer in Hong Kong I buy from.
> >
> > Yet again Loser Larry proves his complete ignorance of everything.
> >
> > Who knows (or cares) about the useless company you use in Hong Kong, but
> > there definitely are external batteries and power supplies that work
with
> > Apple's computers and mobile devices for the few people that actually
want
> > them. :-\
>
> The reason they are cheap is because they leak poison. But ol' Lar' puts
> that gooey stuff on his waffles, so he considers it an additional 'goody'.

More likely they're stolen rejects from the factory sold via an eBay store
and he's wondering why that 50" Plasma TV on his credit card statement
hasn't shown up at his trailer park home. ;-)

Your Name

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:vBrho.182996$1F6.46220@newsfe01.iad...
> At 07 Sep 2010 16:35:59 +1200 Your Name wrote:
> > In article <13jho.62283$6o7.14292@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
> > <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> >
> > > At 04 Sep 2010 18:55:20 -0700 nospam wrote:
> > > > In article <Xns9DE9DE96B577Cnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> > > > <noone@home.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We COULD do that.....and put in a CHANGEABLE BATTERY so the
> customer
> > > > > could DECIDE if he wants to swap it!
> > > >
> > > > customers already decided that. most never buy a second battery for
> > > > their cellphones or laptops.
> > >
> > > Just the ones who need one.
> >
> > So yet again people expect Apple (or any company) to put in features
> that
> > are wanted by tiny fractions of the users ... that's what Microsoft tend
> > to do and it means you end up with bloated buggy expensive rubbish where
> > 99.9% of people only ever use 1% of the features. :-\
>
> I don't "expect" Apple to do anything. The lack of a feature I desire is
> just a reason to shop competitors. Apple has done quite well with iPods
> and iPhones despite not offering the feature, and good for them.
>
> As long as consumers realize their product has a three-four year
> lifespan, no harm done. My first gen Nano is down to about two hours of
> playback, so it's been repurposed, along with an old speaker dock, as a
> stationary "mini stereo" and my wife's iPhone no longer makes it through
> a day of use- it needs recharging mid-day. That'll end up as an iPod
> Touch for the kids shortly as soon as my wife's replacement arrives.

None of that has anything to do with the iPhone nor Apple ... it's a
standard problem with everything battery driven, even cars (including the
idiotic electric car). It's the price you have to pay for portability. It's
even a problem in desktop computers, VCRs, etc. with the battery that keeps
the date ticking over wearing out. Eventually of course for device using
custom batteries (rather than a standard like the AA sizes) you will no
longer even be able to get new batteries for the product from anyway at all.

Walter Bushell

In article <lloydparsons-8670BF.13425906092010@port80.individual.net>,
Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <4c8524d6$0$1603$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 9/5/2010 12:05 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > > In article<4c83e54b$0$1648$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> > > SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 9/5/2010 5:07 AM, Walter Bushell wrote:
> > >>> In article<slrni85465.u88.ianji33@zenatode.org.uk>,
> > >>> Ian Gregory<ianji33@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> What it comes down
> > >>>> to is a race between hardware manufacturers producing mobile platforms
> > >>>> that are fast enough and energy efficient enough to mask the horrible
> > >>>> performance of Flash,
> > >>>
> > >>> This would take a while. Flash causes problems on the latest macBook Pro
> > >>> 13"
> > >>
> > >> Wow, that's terrible!
> > >>
> > >> You might want to consider a Dell Mini-10V netbook and install Snow
> > >> Leopard on it (you can dual boot Windows and Snow Leopard if you wish).
> > >> Flash works fine on it, and doesn't have problems like the ones you
> > >> claim that the MacBook Pro has (which I highly doubt).
> > >>
> > >> > and it will be a while before the mobile processors get that good.
> > >>
> > >> Fortunately they're already "that good."
> > >
> > > Only in the minds of those that want to believe. Virtually every review
> > > and comment from those that have actually seen it on mobile devices says
> > > just the opposite.
> >
> > Nope. Read the reviews.
> >
> I've read a number of them. Very poor performance, crashes and lock
> ups. I guess that could be stretched out to mean 'does well' for the
> learning impaired.
>
> > What I'm more worried about though is the claim that a Macbook Pro
> > cannot do Flash properly. That's something Apple needs to fix right away
> > if it's true, which of course it isn't.
>
> I have difficulty believing a Macbook Pro can't do flash properly. Both
> my older intel based mini and my newer iMac do just fine with it.
>
> All except Hulu, which pretty much sucks on everything I've seen except
> for the iPad.

I get all kinds of chrashs, freezes and bombs from flash.

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Cannot put the Gulf of Mexico together again.