Bert

In news:michelle-8EBA01.12213522122011@news.eternal-september.org
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> If that's not what you meant, learn how to write more clearly.

Good luck, Michelle.

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bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Doug Anderson

Bert <bert@iphouse.com> writes:

> In news:y3fwh4me2o.fsf@ethel.the.log Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Indeed. How much did you, or anyone, pay for iOS 5? Apple is giving
> > it away for free, so whatever you paid, you got overcharged.
>
> Is it your contention that since Apple doesn't charge for the software
> and upgrades, it doesn't matter if they're absolute crap, even though
> the hardware, which costs quite a bit, is useless without it (and is
> occasionally made useless with it)?

Is it your habit to accost random strangers on the street and ask
whether they have made some random assertion of your own invention?

Michelle Steiner

In article <Xns9FC3950009F6AVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> > If that's not what you meant, learn how to write more clearly.
>
> Good luck, Michelle.

OK, so you're a troll, and not a very good one at that.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Ray Laughton

Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article<y3fwh4me2o.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >>> Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Perhaps, but making retail users pay for the product to become beta
> >>>>> testers is officially known as 'The Microsoft Ploy'. :\
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed. How much did you, or anyone, pay for iOS 5? Apple is giving
> >>>> it away for free, so whatever you paid, you got overcharged.
> >>>
> >>> Um, Siri is available only on the iPhone 4S, and is the major selling
> >>> point (according to the commercials) of that phone.
> >>
> >> And can you get it WITHOUT Siri?
> >
> > Outside the USA Siri is not on the iPhone 4S (AFAIK).
>
> Then you don't know everything. ;-)
>
> Outside the USA Siri is available on the iPhone 4S (and even in a number
> of local languages like German e.g.). However, for languages other than
> English (of the American variety?) the integration with Wolfram Alpha is
> not (yet?) available, thus Siri is somewhat less powerful. Nevertheless,
> the German IT news sites and papers are giving Siri still great reviews.
>
So how come Siri is not even mentioned in the iphone 4S video ads in
Austria, Germany, Benelux, South Africa (no video at all), -in fact
nowhere except the Apple websites for USA, Canada, GB and Oz?
--
RL

Michael Eyd

Am 04.01.2012 00:46, schrieb Ray Laughton:
> Michael Eyd<invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<y3fwh4me2o.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
>>>>> Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps, but making retail users pay for the product to become beta
>>>>>>> testers is officially known as 'The Microsoft Ploy'. :\
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed. How much did you, or anyone, pay for iOS 5? Apple is giving
>>>>>> it away for free, so whatever you paid, you got overcharged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, Siri is available only on the iPhone 4S, and is the major selling
>>>>> point (according to the commercials) of that phone.
>>>>
>>>> And can you get it WITHOUT Siri?
>>>
>>> Outside the USA Siri is not on the iPhone 4S (AFAIK).
>>
>> Then you don't know everything. ;-)
>>
>> Outside the USA Siri is available on the iPhone 4S (and even in a number
>> of local languages like German e.g.). However, for languages other than
>> English (of the American variety?) the integration with Wolfram Alpha is
>> not (yet?) available, thus Siri is somewhat less powerful. Nevertheless,
>> the German IT news sites and papers are giving Siri still great reviews.
>>
> So how come Siri is not even mentioned in the iphone 4S video ads in
> Austria, Germany, Benelux, South Africa (no video at all), -in fact
> nowhere except the Apple websites for USA, Canada, GB and Oz?

I don't know which video ads you are referring to, but here in Germany
Apple ran several (different, IIRC) video ad campaigns on all (again:
IIRC) major stations, and those *were* featuring SIRI very prominently,
if it wasn't even their main/only topic.

And just for your reference, I add a screenshot from the German Apple
website, clearly stating that SIRI *is* available in German! It's even
shown in the display of the central iPhone, used to create a reminder
for daddy's birthday. :-)

So, please stop your bashing of SIRI and get your facts right first.

Best regards,

Michael

bigdude

Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:

> > Michael Eyd<invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article<y3fwh4me2o.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >>>>> Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Perhaps, but making retail users pay for the product to become beta
> >>>>>>> testers is officially known as 'The Microsoft Ploy'. :\
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Indeed. How much did you, or anyone, pay for iOS 5? Apple is giving
> >>>>>> it away for free, so whatever you paid, you got overcharged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Um, Siri is available only on the iPhone 4S, and is the major selling
> >>>>> point (according to the commercials) of that phone.
> >>>>
> >>>> And can you get it WITHOUT Siri?
> >>>
> >>> Outside the USA Siri is not on the iPhone 4S (AFAIK).
> >>
> >> Then you don't know everything. ;-)
> >>
> >> Outside the USA Siri is available on the iPhone 4S (and even in a number
> >> of local languages like German e.g.). However, for languages other than
> >> English (of the American variety?) the integration with Wolfram Alpha is
> >> not (yet?) available, thus Siri is somewhat less powerful. Nevertheless,
> >> the German IT news sites and papers are giving Siri still great reviews.
> >>
> > So how come Siri is not even mentioned in the iphone 4S video ads in
> > Austria, Germany, Benelux, South Africa (no video at all), -in fact
> > nowhere except the Apple websites for USA, Canada, GB and Oz?
>
> I don't know which video ads you are referring to, but here in Germany
> Apple ran several (different, IIRC) video ad campaigns on all (again:
> IIRC) major stations, and those *were* featuring SIRI very prominently,
> if it wasn't even their main/only topic.
>
> And just for your reference, I add a screenshot from the German Apple
> website, clearly stating that SIRI *is* available in German! It's even
> shown in the display of the central iPhone, used to create a reminder
> for daddy's birthday. :-)
>
> So, please stop your bashing of SIRI and get your facts right first.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael

Asking a question is not 'bashing' Siri, for Pete's sake!
The ads I checked are the ones you can access from the internet at
Apple's websites for the various countries.
I believe you regarding Germany, so before you upload another image to
USENET get a clue, you Volltrottel..
--
bigD

Runge 132

If you're wrong, why insist ?


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Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:

> > Michael Eyd<invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article<y3fwh4me2o.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >>>>> Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Perhaps, but making retail users pay for the product to become
> >>>>>>> beta
> >>>>>>> testers is officially known as 'The Microsoft Ploy'. :\
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Indeed. How much did you, or anyone, pay for iOS 5? Apple is
> >>>>>> giving
> >>>>>> it away for free, so whatever you paid, you got overcharged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Um, Siri is available only on the iPhone 4S, and is the major
> >>>>> selling
> >>>>> point (according to the commercials) of that phone.
> >>>>
> >>>> And can you get it WITHOUT Siri?
> >>>
> >>> Outside the USA Siri is not on the iPhone 4S (AFAIK).
> >>
> >> Then you don't know everything. ;-)
> >>
> >> Outside the USA Siri is available on the iPhone 4S (and even in a
> >> number
> >> of local languages like German e.g.). However, for languages other than
> >> English (of the American variety?) the integration with Wolfram Alpha
> >> is
> >> not (yet?) available, thus Siri is somewhat less powerful.
> >> Nevertheless,
> >> the German IT news sites and papers are giving Siri still great
> >> reviews.
> >>
> > So how come Siri is not even mentioned in the iphone 4S video ads in
> > Austria, Germany, Benelux, South Africa (no video at all), -in fact
> > nowhere except the Apple websites for USA, Canada, GB and Oz?
>
> I don't know which video ads you are referring to, but here in Germany
> Apple ran several (different, IIRC) video ad campaigns on all (again:
> IIRC) major stations, and those *were* featuring SIRI very prominently,
> if it wasn't even their main/only topic.
>
> And just for your reference, I add a screenshot from the German Apple
> website, clearly stating that SIRI *is* available in German! It's even
> shown in the display of the central iPhone, used to create a reminder
> for daddy's birthday. :-)
>
> So, please stop your bashing of SIRI and get your facts right first.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael

Asking a question is not 'bashing' Siri, for Pete's sake!
The ads I checked are the ones you can access from the internet at
Apple's websites for the various countries.
I believe you regarding Germany, so before you upload another image to
USENET get a clue, you Volltrottel..
--
bigD