Jolly Roger

"On October 4, 2011, Apple launched the iPhone 4S with Siri just one day
prior to Steve Jobs passing. Today, the first killer patent application
behind Siri was published by the US Patent and Trademark Office. It's
clear that*Apple's breakthrough technology is destined to go far beyond
the iPhone and into devices like the iMac and a future HDTV. The timing
of this patent application is appropriate, being that we just posted a
report on Tuesday titled "Steve Jobs Credited with an Apple TV Patent
for Episodic TV." The patent also reveals that Apple envisions the
technology playing a role in vehicles and in-vehicle entertainment
systems where an Intelligent Assistant will be considered the king of
user interfaces. Apple's patent shows us that Siri will be able to be
configured to work with various new scenarios and even act as an
instructor when we purchase future devices. Forget using a manual * as
Siri will simply teach us what we'll*want to know about our*new devices
when we're*ready to ask it a question about a new function or feature.
Today we get a look behind the magic of Siri, and it is simply mind
boggling."

Read more here:

<http://tinyurl.com/852ltpq>

<http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...introduces-us-
to-siri-the-killer-patent.html>

Anyone claiming the dumbed-down voice recognition on Android and Windows
Phone is similar to Siri is talking out of ignorance, or is flat-out
lying. Siri is a good voice recognition engine married with true
artificial intelligence; and it's only going to get better and more
powerful as time goes on. Very exciting to see Apple making this a
reality!

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Wes Groleau

On 01-20-2012 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Read more here:
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/852ltpq>
>
> <http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...introduces-us-
> to-siri-the-killer-patent.html>

It's pretty impressive, but I don't understand the point of a 1987
advert depicting technology that Apple has not quite gotten to in 2012.

Sure, they're getting close, but they aren't there yet. The
voice-recognition is Nuance, and anyone who has used anything from there
knows that, good as it is, it can still make some amusing mistakes.

Siri: "Tickle my ass with a feather?"
User: "No! I said, 'particularly nasty weather' and I wasn't talking to
you!"

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sbt

In article <jfd63e$eur$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Siri: "Tickle my ass with a feather?"
> User: "No! I said, 'particularly nasty weather' and I wasn't talking to
> you!"

Or the classic Apple t-shirt circa 1990:

Front: I helped Apple wreck a nice beach
Back: I helped Apple recognize speech.

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Wes Groleau

On 01-20-2012 21:28, sbt wrote:
> In article<jfd63e$eur$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
> <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> Siri: "Tickle my ass with a feather?"
>> User: "No! I said, 'particularly nasty weather' and I wasn't talking to
>> you!"
>
> Or the classic Apple t-shirt circa 1990:
>
> Front: I helped Apple wreck a nice beach
> Back: I helped Apple recognize speech.

http://kith.org/logos/words/upper2/DDragon.html

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Wes Groleau

ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI

Michelle Steiner

In article <jfd63e$eur$1@dont-email.me>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> It's pretty impressive, but I don't understand the point of a 1987
> advert depicting technology that Apple has not quite gotten to in 2012.
>
> Sure, they're getting close, but they aren't there yet.

That technology is the goal. That goal was probably the biggest
contribution that Scully made to Apple, even though it was put aside for a
few decades.

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Michelle Steiner

In article <200120121828188202%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.inval id>,
sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:

> Or the classic Apple t-shirt circa 1990:
>
> Front: I helped Apple wreck a nice beach
> Back: I helped Apple recognize speech.

I still have that tee shirt. Here's a photo of it (not my personal one,
though):

<http://snchz.tumblr.com/post/11238693763/i-helped-apple-wreck-a-nice-beach>

<http://tinyurl.com/6g7r72m>

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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Tim McNamara

I am reminded somehow of Mr. Scott attempting to speak to a Mac Plus...
and imagining Steve Jobs watching and saying "you know what would be
insanely great..."

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order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And
then he is so anxious about the future that he doesn't enjoy the present; the
result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as
if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived"
- Dalai Lama

Davoud

Wes Groleau:
> <http://kith.org/logos/words/upper2/DDragon.html>

OK, but that was 1998. The writer said of Dragon Naturally Speaking
"...without training the software to my voice, it was still wrong more
often than not." So accuracy was <50% without training.

Today, without training the software to his voice, he would find DNS to
have an accuracy level of >95%. With adequate training it could reach
99%. It's not going to reach 100%, just as no human has ever reached
100% in oral comprehension. But it's certainly good enough to be very
useful to those who need it.

What is extremely clever on Nuance's part is that they use the data
that they collect (not personal data, but speech technical data, my
paranoid friends) from Siri and the various free Dragon products that
they offer for IOS to improve the accuracy of their products.
Incremental improvements will continue for a long time to come.

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Wes Groleau

On 01-21-2012 00:41, Davoud wrote:
> Wes Groleau:
>> <http://kith.org/logos/words/upper2/DDragon.html>
>
> OK, but that was 1998. The writer said of Dragon Naturally Speaking
> "...without training the software to my voice, it was still wrong more
> often than not." So accuracy was<50% without training.
>
> Today, without training the software to his voice, he would find DNS to
> have an accuracy level of>95%. With adequate training it could reach

I didn't post it to denigrate Dragon, I posted it because it mentioned
the T-shirt in the post I was responding to.

I first used IBM's ViaVoice around 2001 and its accuracy was at least
75% on regular English IF there were no background sound.

I installed Dragon for a friend with Parkinson's around 2004 and it was
definitely better than 95% out-of-the-box on my voice. My friend's
voice is a bit raspy and not loud, so he doesn't get quite as good, but
he finds it good enough that he hasn't given up on sending e-mails.

But it still won't do what the 1998 advert presented, and without ever
having used Siri, I'm confident she won't either.

I'm even more confident that the semantic analysis isn't there yet.
Looking back at the Jeopardy/Watson exhibition game, Watson was the
physical size of a thousand iMacs, and a human beat it one game out of
three. And one could tell on the days it won that it wasn't really
understanding English. Like when it guessed an airport within USA when
the clue mentioned Canada.

--
Wes Groleau

In any formula, constants (especially those obtained
from handbooks) are to be treated as variables.

Alan Browne

On 2012-01-21 10:44 , Wes Groleau wrote:

> three. And one could tell on the days it won that it wasn't really
> understanding English. Like when it guessed an airport within USA when
> the clue mentioned Canada.

Siri also blows when using "English" to discuss a French restaurant or
street. "Send a text to Pierre[1] asking to meet for dinner at Cuisine
et Dependence[2] on Boul. St-Laurent[3] at seven."

1, 2 and 3 are spoken with a French accent (even by English speakers in
Montreal).

And when using the "French" Siri, whether a "French" or Québecois accent
is used, it is not particularly good at understanding.

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