Peter

In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?

It is probably the least ethical of all the big IT names.

You post a Q about an issue in a Micro$oft forum and you get no
answers, or some answers.

You post a Q about an Iphone/Ipad and several people jump on you.

nospam

In article <ekkka7pp8n4i7qspheod5ke7a3j80ckffn@4ax.com>, Peter
<nospam@nospam9876.com> wrote:

> In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?

it's not. there are fanbois for pretty much any product or company.

salgud

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:01:05 +0100, Peter wrote:

> In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>
> It is probably the least ethical of all the big IT names.
>
> You post a Q about an issue in a Micro$oft forum and you get no
> answers, or some answers.
>
> You post a Q about an Iphone/Ipad and several people jump on you.

Whatever else you might say about them, Apple turns out consistently high
quality consumer products. In this day and age, that is extremely unusual.
You can buy high quality cars, or houses, or guns, but consistently high
quality consumer products from a company are rare. At one time, Sony,
Panasonic and others achieved this, but now sell products with widely
varying levels of quality. Apple is the only company I can think of
(someone jump in here and remind me of someone else, if there is one) that
delivers this kind of quality to these consumer markets.

Unfortunately, these high quality products being so rare these days have
created a following which, not being used to these kinds of products, have
gone over the top and ascribed characteristics and attributes to Apple and
the iSteve that are figments of their imagination. Neither Apple nor Jobs
are perfect, or "don't care about the money". They care very much. They're
just smart enough to know that there's a niche in today's markets for high
quality/high price products because virtually everyone else is cranking out
junk to "compete" with the others who are cranking out junk. Hence,
fanbois, who refuse to see both sides of the company and the genius who
created it. They idealize both beyond reason, and defend them both beyond
believability. They defend them even to the point of denying the premium
price we pay for these premium products.

As a result of the fanbois existence and extremist defence of their God,
come the trolls. Any time someon goes around evangelizinig about their
deity, someone will take exception and derive considerable delight in
pointing that God's feet of clay. I won't deny that I do. As a long time
lover of putting burrs under saddles, these forums are paradise. Any time
I'm feeling a bit cranky, I can just come in here, make a critical yet
truthful statement about Apple or the iSteve, and get dozens of these
people jumping up and down and shouting denials so forcibly that they are,
in themselves, proof that what is being said is true. Another great example
of "me thinks thou dost protest too much". And a hoot!

Michelle Steiner

In article <281020111029275108%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <ekkka7pp8n4i7qspheod5ke7a3j80ckffn@4ax.com>, Peter
> <nospam@nospam9876.com> wrote:
>
> > In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>
> it's not. there are fanbois for pretty much any product or company.

Thing is that people with axes to grind about Apple (e.g., "news", "Larry",
"priam", "salgud") come here and make their wildly ridiculous claims and
accusations. When we counter those falsehoods, we get labeled as
"fanbois". But we don't bother invading MS venues, so there's nothing
there to defend, and their fanbois remain in the woodwork.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

nospam

In article <michelle-63E38A.08031728102011@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
> >
> > it's not. there are fanbois for pretty much any product or company.
>
> Thing is that people with axes to grind about Apple (e.g., "news", "Larry",
> "priam", "salgud") come here and make their wildly ridiculous claims and
> accusations. When we counter those falsehoods, we get labeled as
> "fanbois". But we don't bother invading MS venues, so there's nothing
> there to defend, and their fanbois remain in the woodwork.

in my experience, there are more haters, or anti-fanbois, than there
are fanbois.

Michelle Steiner

In article <281020111158275475%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> in my experience, there are more haters, or anti-fanbois, than there
> are fanbois.

Of course.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

News

On 10/28/2011 11:58 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article<michelle-63E38A.08031728102011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Michelle Steiner<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>>>> In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>>>
>>> it's not. there are fanbois for pretty much any product or company.
>>
>> Thing is that people with axes to grind about Apple (e.g., "news", "Larry",
>> "priam", "salgud") come here and make their wildly ridiculous claims and
>> accusations. When we counter those falsehoods, we get labeled as
>> "fanbois". But we don't bother invading MS venues, so there's nothing
>> there to defend, and their fanbois remain in the woodwork.
>
> in my experience, there are more haters, or anti-fanbois, than there
> are fanbois.


More rational people, for sure.

George Kerby

On 10/28/11 10:03 AM, in article
michelle-63E38A.08031728102011@news....-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <281020111029275108%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <ekkka7pp8n4i7qspheod5ke7a3j80ckffn@4ax.com>, Peter
>> <nospam@nospam9876.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>>
>> it's not. there are fanbois for pretty much any product or company.
>
> Thing is that people with axes to grind about Apple (e.g., "news", "Larry",
> "priam", "salgud") come here and make their wildly ridiculous claims and
> accusations. When we counter those falsehoods, we get labeled as
> "fanbois". But we don't bother invading MS venues, so there's nothing
> there to defend, and their fanbois remain in the woodwork.

Gad! I forgot about Larry! What a loser...

Your Name

In article <ekkka7pp8n4i7qspheod5ke7a3j80ckffn@4ax.com>, Peter
<nospam@nospam9876.com> wrote:

> In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>
> It is probably the least ethical of all the big IT names.
>
> You post a Q about an issue in a Micro$oft forum and you get no
> answers, or some answers.
>
> You post a Q about an Iphone/Ipad and several people jump on you.

People only "jump on you" if you post utter nonsense or are whining about
"Apple being useless because I can't do what I want". If you post a proper
question and actually listen to the answers given, then nobody "jumps on
you".

DevilsPGD

In message <ekkka7pp8n4i7qspheod5ke7a3j80ckffn@4ax.com> someone claiming
to be Peter <nospam@nospam9876.com> typed:

>In fact why is Apple the ONLY company to have fanbois everywhere?
>
>It is probably the least ethical of all the big IT names.
>
>You post a Q about an issue in a Micro$oft forum and you get no
>answers, or some answers.

Microsoft has "fanbois", they're typically known as "IT Professionals"

There is plenty of trolling and other stupidity on Microsoft's
discussion forums though.

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steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.