Michelle Steiner

Yesterday I noticed that it is now possible to synch iOS devices with
iTunes wirelessly, without having the two connected via USB. I assume that
this requires iTunes 10.5 and iOS 5 because I never noticed it before those
two updates.

Of course, they all have to be on the same network.

It would be nice to be able to synch iOS devices directly with each other
without using iTunes at all, though.

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Alan Browne

On 2011-10-28 12:47 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Yesterday I noticed that it is now possible to synch iOS devices with
> iTunes wirelessly, without having the two connected via USB. I assume that

They still have to be plugged into a power source, n'est pas?

> this requires iTunes 10.5 and iOS 5 because I never noticed it before those
> two updates.
>
> Of course, they all have to be on the same network.

Bien sûr.

> It would be nice to be able to synch iOS devices directly with each other
> without using iTunes at all, though.

That would defeat the Apple urge to have everything go through a
knothole. I'd buy an Apple TV right now if I didn't have to index video
into iTunes first.

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Michelle Steiner

In article <pqqdneANFPQNQjfTnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> > Yesterday I noticed that it is now possible to synch iOS devices with
> > iTunes wirelessly, without having the two connected via USB. I assume that
>
> They still have to be plugged into a power source, n'est pas?

Nope. I'm syncing with the iPhone right now, and it's not plugged into
anything. My computer does have to be plugged in, though; it's a desktop,
not a laptop, computer. (Oh, and after the sync, the iPhone's battery is
still at 100%.)

> > It would be nice to be able to synch iOS devices directly with each other
> > without using iTunes at all, though.
>
> That would defeat the Apple urge to have everything go through a
> knothole. I'd buy an Apple TV right now if I didn't have to index video
> into iTunes first.

So far as I can tell, I can stream a video directly to the Apple TV without
iTunes being involved at all.

However, I'd rather get it through NetFlix and my BlueRay player because
they offer 1080P; Apple TV is limited to 720P.

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Alan Browne

On 2011-10-28 13:14 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<pqqdneANFPQNQjfTnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews. com>,
> Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Yesterday I noticed that it is now possible to synch iOS devices with
>>> iTunes wirelessly, without having the two connected via USB. I assume that
>>
>> They still have to be plugged into a power source, n'est pas?
>
> Nope. I'm syncing with the iPhone right now, and it's not plugged into
> anything. My computer does have to be plugged in, though; it's a desktop,
> not a laptop, computer. (Oh, and after the sync, the iPhone's battery is
> still at 100%.)
>
>>> It would be nice to be able to synch iOS devices directly with each other
>>> without using iTunes at all, though.
>>
>> That would defeat the Apple urge to have everything go through a
>> knothole. I'd buy an Apple TV right now if I didn't have to index video
>> into iTunes first.
>
> So far as I can tell, I can stream a video directly to the Apple TV without
> iTunes being involved at all.
>
> However, I'd rather get it through NetFlix and my BlueRay player because
> they offer 1080P; Apple TV is limited to 720P.

Ah-ha! Thanks for that - the current Apple TV is then off of my list.

Most of the video on my computer is not even 720 p. Old stuff, comedy
clips and so on.

But, looking to the future I want a device that is 1080p capable.

The WD TV Live Plus is attractive from that POV but I'm not sure if it
does Netflix in Canada.

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Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> On 2011-10-28 13:14 , Michelle Steiner wrote:

>> So far as I can tell, I can stream a video directly to the Apple TV without
>> iTunes being involved at all.

From files on your Mac? As I understood it, you need iTunes to
act as the server. There are other video servers (ie DLNA
servers like the PS3 Media Server), but in order for a
device like an AppleTV to see media that lives on your desktop
machine, the contents need to be streamed or shared from that
desktop machine somehow - either a media server (which iTunes
apparently can do for you, or a DLNA app) or, I suppose, by
using filesharing if the device at the other end can mount
it up (ie. if your files lived on your desktop mac but you
had a MacMini plugged into your TV).

And as far as I knew the AppleTV only accepts streaming
from your desktop from iTunes, not the more generic DLNA
standard.

Or are you talking about streaming to the AppleTV from your
iPad or iPhone?

>> However, I'd rather get it through NetFlix and my BlueRay player because
>> they offer 1080P; Apple TV is limited to 720P.
>
> Ah-ha! Thanks for that - the current Apple TV is then off of my list.

The AppleTV does have a really nice Netflix interface - very
much nicer than the one my Tivo shows.

> The WD TV Live Plus is attractive from that POV but I'm not sure if it
> does Netflix in Canada.

I had terrible luck with a WD device a few generations back, I
don't remember which. I'm currently debating between an AppleTV
and a Roku, but it looks like the Roku doesn't support streaming
from your desktop machine to it at all (ie. no DLNA or other
such support). You can plug a USB drive into it, but, um, yech.

The WD Live does seem to include a DLNA client.

For all that, I've never gotten my Tivo to be able to see
the Tivo server on my Macs, nor did my one attempt with a
DLNA server and some other device ever work, either. At
this point, I'm leaning more towards the AppleTV both because
I'm pretty sure iTunes will just work and also because I
can stream to it from my iPad or iPhone, too (which would
probably mostly be for music, but it's still pretty cool).

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Alan Browne

On 2011-10-28 14:42 , BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:
> Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> On 2011-10-28 13:14 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
>>> So far as I can tell, I can stream a video directly to the Apple TV without
>>> iTunes being involved at all.
>
> From files on your Mac? As I understood it, you need iTunes to
> act as the server. There are other video servers (ie DLNA
> servers like the PS3 Media Server), but in order for a
> device like an AppleTV to see media that lives on your desktop
> machine, the contents need to be streamed or shared from that
> desktop machine somehow - either a media server (which iTunes
> apparently can do for you, or a DLNA app) or, I suppose, by
> using filesharing if the device at the other end can mount
> it up (ie. if your files lived on your desktop mac but you
> had a MacMini plugged into your TV).
>
> And as far as I knew the AppleTV only accepts streaming
> from your desktop from iTunes, not the more generic DLNA
> standard.
>
> Or are you talking about streaming to the AppleTV from your
> iPad or iPhone?
>
>>> However, I'd rather get it through NetFlix and my BlueRay player because
>>> they offer 1080P; Apple TV is limited to 720P.
>>
>> Ah-ha! Thanks for that - the current Apple TV is then off of my list.
>
> The AppleTV does have a really nice Netflix interface - very
> much nicer than the one my Tivo shows.
>
>> The WD TV Live Plus is attractive from that POV but I'm not sure if it
>> does Netflix in Canada.
>
> I had terrible luck with a WD device a few generations back, I
> don't remember which. I'm currently debating between an AppleTV
> and a Roku, but it looks like the Roku doesn't support streaming
> from your desktop machine to it at all (ie. no DLNA or other
> such support). You can plug a USB drive into it, but, um, yech.
>
> The WD Live does seem to include a DLNA client.
>
> For all that, I've never gotten my Tivo to be able to see
> the Tivo server on my Macs, nor did my one attempt with a
> DLNA server and some other device ever work, either. At
> this point, I'm leaning more towards the AppleTV both because
> I'm pretty sure iTunes will just work and also because I
> can stream to it from my iPad or iPhone, too (which would
> probably mostly be for music, but it's still pretty cool).

I had an interim plan of using an Apple TV to WiFi iTunes to my sound
system (controlled by my iPhone). But if the resolution is not 1080p
I'll wait a bit.

By then the "real" Apple TV might come out.


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Michelle Steiner

In article <yobzkglgdp2.fsf_-_@panix1.panix.com>,
BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:

> >> So far as I can tell, I can stream a video directly to the Apple TV without
> >> iTunes being involved at all.
>
> From files on your Mac?

No, from the original source (iTunes Store, NetFlix, etc.) Stuff on my Mac
needs iTunes to be running, but that's not a big deal to me.

> And as far as I knew the AppleTV only accepts streaming
> from your desktop from iTunes, not the more generic DLNA
> standard.

So far as I know, that's true. Conversely, my BlueRay player uses DLNA, so
can't receive streaming from my Mac.

-- Michelle

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Your Name

In article <michelle-9F6A1F.09475528102011@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> Yesterday I noticed that it is now possible to synch iOS devices with
> iTunes wirelessly, without having the two connected via USB. I assume that
> this requires iTunes 10.5 and iOS 5 because I never noticed it before those
> two updates.
>
> Of course, they all have to be on the same network.
>
> It would be nice to be able to synch iOS devices directly with each other
> without using iTunes at all, though.

Wi-Fi syncing was one of the listed new features of iOS5 (although I'm not
sure if it works on all iPhone / iPod / iPad models that can run iOS5).

BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> writes:
> In article <yobzkglgdp2.fsf_-_@panix1.panix.com>,
> BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:

>> And as far as I knew the AppleTV only accepts streaming
>> from your desktop from iTunes, not the more generic DLNA
>> standard.
>
> So far as I know, that's true. Conversely, my BlueRay player uses
> DLNA, so can't receive streaming from my Mac.

Which BlueRay player is it? Do you like it?

There are a few DLNA servers for the Mac. My brother
uses the free Sony PS3 one, but there are a few. Actually,
IIRC, his blueray player is actually a PS3 itself, but
the PS3 DLNA server should work with any DLNA compliant
client.

If you've got a collection of content (videos, music, etc)
as files on your Mac, no reason not to use your BlueRay player.




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Michelle Steiner

In article <yourname-2910111046560001@203-118-184-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
yourname@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote:

> Wi-Fi syncing was one of the listed new features of iOS5 (although I'm not
> sure if it works on all iPhone / iPod / iPad models that can run iOS5).

With 200 new features, I can't memorize them all.

But I know it works with the iPhone 4 and iPad 2.

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