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Old 10-08-2011, 04:50 AM
Paul M Westley
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

Good news! It only cost Apple $200 million to catch up with Google's
Voice action and V lingo.

"Today Apple announced the iPhone 4S which disappointed many who were
expecting to see the iPhone 5. However, Apple was still able to excite
the fanbase with the public demo Siri, a virtual personal assistant
coming to iOS5 on October 12th. Apple acquired the company Siri for $200
million in April of last year and Steve Jobs described it as “artificial
intelligence”, not search or speech recognition.

Apple sums up the new service on their site. “Siri on iPhone 4S lets you
use your voice to send messages, schedule meetings, place phone calls,
and more. Ask Siri to do things just by talking the way you talk. Siri
understands what you say, knows what you mean, and even talks back. Siri
is so easy to use and does so much, you’ll keep finding more and more
ways to use it.”

Android already has similar virtual assistant apps like Vlingo, but they
are not as deeply integrated into the operating system as closely as
Siri. Check out the demo video below for an idea of what to expect.

If you were hoping that Google would launch their own virtual assistant
into the next version Android, then you might get your wish as soon as
next week. I recently received a random tip that Google has been working
on taking their Voice Search app to the next level with similar virtual
assistant features. Unfortunately I don’t have any specific details, but
we know that Google has been a leader in voice technology and facial
recognition is coming to Ice Cream Sandwich.

What I think Google might have in store is some kind of animated
character or pet that is tied to your Google account and appears on your
Android unlock screen. This might sound kind of crazy, but picture
something like Talking Tom Cat 2 (or Seaman for the Sega Dreamcast!),
but with real intelligence behind it that learns and remembers
everything you do."

<http://androidandme.com/2011/10/news/if-you-think-apples-siri-assistant-is-cool-wait-till-you-see-what-google-has-been-working-on/>

Conclusion? If the phone is a disappointment, add some gadget.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:40 AM
Paul M Westley
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

On 10/08/2011 12:23 AM, Paul M Westley wrote:

Sorry for multiple copies. Only this last one first appeared in my news
reader.

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Old 10-08-2011, 03:30 PM
Todd Allcock
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

At 08 Oct 2011 00:51:07 -0400 Paul M Westley wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 12:23 AM, Paul M Westley wrote:
>
> Sorry for multiple copies. Only this last one first appeared in my news

reader.



No worries. I think most of us kill-filed you by the second one...



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Old 10-08-2011, 03:30 PM
Alan Browne
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On 2011-10-08 00:23 , Paul M Westley wrote:
> Good news! It only cost Apple $200 million to catch up with Google's
> Voice action and V lingo.


I doubt that the implementation and integration of functions with Siri
is anywhere matched by Voice and V.

> "Today Apple announced the iPhone 4S which disappointed many who were
> expecting to see the iPhone 5. However, Apple was still able to excite
> the fanbase with the public demo Siri, a virtual personal assistant
> coming to iOS5 on October 12th. Apple acquired the company Siri for $200
> million in April of last year and Steve Jobs described it as “artificial
> intelligence”, not search or speech recognition.


From what I've read about the demo, Siri needs a slow, deliberate voice
input. Could be irritating.

I'll stick to my iPhone 4 - likely for the next 4 years, at least. I
hardly use the voice recognition in it to dial. Only works with some
names and fails miserably when I'm driving (noise).

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Old 10-08-2011, 03:30 PM
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In article <4qOdnfLuqu6rxw3TnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2011-10-08 00:23 , Paul M Westley wrote:
> > Good news! It only cost Apple $200 million to catch up with Google's
> > Voice action and V lingo.

>
> I doubt that the implementation and integration of functions with Siri
> is anywhere matched by Voice and V.


What is true remains true despite doubts and beliefs. Burroughs, CDC, DEC,
Sperry-Rand, SGI, and others did elegant designs in their day, before making a
fatal mistake. Then the talent migrated and a new company rose up. Perhaps Apple
will succeed, perhaps not. Someone will always being making the next best thing.

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Old 10-08-2011, 03:30 PM
J.J. O'Shea
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 09:50:33 -0400, Todd Allcock wrote
(in article <j6pkpl$5q6$1@dont-email.me>):

> At 08 Oct 2011 00:51:07 -0400 Paul M Westley wrote:
>> On 10/08/2011 12:23 AM, Paul M Westley wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for multiple copies. Only this last one first appeared in my news

> reader.
>
>
>
> No worries. I think most of us kill-filed you by the second one...
>
>
>


Most of us in c.s.m.s had him filtered a long time ago because he's bloody
Priam under yet another nym.

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Old 10-08-2011, 05:50 PM
Michelle Steiner
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

In article <j6pkpl$5q6$1@dont-email.me>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> At 08 Oct 2011 00:51:07 -0400 Paul M Westley wrote:
> > On 10/08/2011 12:23 AM, Paul M Westley wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for multiple copies. Only this last one first appeared in my
> > news reader.

>
>
>
> No worries. I think most of us kill-filed you by the second one...


*guffaw*

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Old 10-08-2011, 07:40 PM
Alan Baker
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

In article <j6okrr$19j$2@dont-email.me>,
Paul M Westley <pw@notknownnow.com> wrote:

> On 10/08/2011 12:23 AM, Paul M Westley wrote:
>
> Sorry for multiple copies. Only this last one first appeared in my news
> reader.


Perhaps if you'd been using a Mac it wouldn't have happened...

;-)

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Old 10-08-2011, 09:30 PM
Paul M Westley
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Default Siri: 200 million because Apple was so late

On 10/08/2011 10:12 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2011-10-08 00:23 , Paul M Westley wrote:
>> Good news! It only cost Apple $200 million to catch up with Google's
>> Voice action and V lingo.

>
> I doubt that the implementation and integration of functions with Siri
> is anywhere matched by Voice and V.


No. Mostly Google's software doesn't read the results back. Isn't it
weird? This technology is 20 years old! As long as Apple was using
Google software for searches, it was providing 2/3 of Google's voice
searches.

Now, Apple has Siri and a Cloud.

>> "Today Apple announced the iPhone 4S which disappointed many who were
>> expecting to see the iPhone 5. However, Apple was still able to excite
>> the fanbase with the public demo Siri, a virtual personal assistant
>> coming to iOS5 on October 12th. Apple acquired the company Siri for $200
>> million in April of last year and Steve Jobs described it as “artificial
>> intelligence”, not search or speech recognition.

>
> From what I've read about the demo, Siri needs a slow, deliberate voice
> input. Could be irritating.


At 1:20, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbYV...layer_embedded
Google software seems to be doing fine with fast voice input. No street
noise, of course.

> I'll stick to my iPhone 4 - likely for the next 4 years, at least. I
> hardly use the voice recognition in it to dial. Only works with some
> names and fails miserably when I'm driving (noise).


Seems sound to me.


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Old 10-08-2011, 09:30 PM
Tim Streater
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In article
<yourname-0910111006130001@203-118-184-75.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
yourname@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote:

> In article <4qOdnfLuqu6rxw3TnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> > From what I've read about the demo, Siri needs a slow, deliberate voice
> > input. Could be irritating.
> >
> > I'll stick to my iPhone 4 - likely for the next 4 years, at least. I
> > hardly use the voice recognition in it to dial. Only works with some
> > names and fails miserably when I'm driving (noise).

>
> A "slow and deliberate input" didn't stop the Palm device becoming popular.
> :-)
>
> Despite Star Trek fans dreams, I don't see voice input becoming very
> popular. It might be fine if you're all by yourself in a quiet room ...


I could find it quite useful if I could dictate to my Mac and have it
appear as text in a document. Doing that at home would be very handy.

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