Gary

Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?

Michelle Steiner

In article <4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.c om>,
Gary <gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?

That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
Read this article to understand what's happening:

<http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
works.html>

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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Ed Cryer

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.ast raweb.com>,
> Gary<gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
>> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
>> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
>> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?
>
> That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
> Read this article to understand what's happening:
>
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
> works.html>
>

I've monitored and examined this process using the System app. And I've
come to the conclusion that iOS has a big problem with memory
allocation. It's the Suspended state of memory-hogging that causes the
problem. What iOS does is use as much RAM as it can, and only clear out
when it needs space.

In the System app, look at the memory usage diagram, clear the
white-marked area, see available RAM grow.

You can try my proven method as a test. Run as normal until it takes
some time to give the click-off sound after pressing the button; about a
second or so delay. Reboot, run a program, press off button and get the
click-off sound immediately.

I now reboot daily.


Ed

Jolly Roger

In article <jecfhd$87d$1@dont-email.me>,
Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article<4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.ast raweb.com>,
> > Gary<gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
> >> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
> >> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
> >> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?
> >
> > That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
> > Read this article to understand what's happening:
> >
> > <http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
> > works.html>
>
> I've monitored and examined this process using the System app. And I've
> come to the conclusion that iOS has a big problem with memory
> allocation. It's the Suspended state of memory-hogging that causes the
> problem. What iOS does is use as much RAM as it can, and only clear out
> when it needs space.

What you just described is how most Unix operating systems work today.

> In the System app, look at the memory usage diagram, clear the
> white-marked area, see available RAM grow.

What "System" application are you talking about?

> You can try my proven method as a test. Run as normal until it takes
> some time to give the click-off sound after pressing the button; about a
> second or so delay. Reboot, run a program, press off button and get the
> click-off sound immediately.

I don't recall ever seeing a significant delay on my iPhone 4. As soon
as I press the sleep button, the screen goes dark.

> I now reboot daily.

That seems like a really silly thing to do, but whatever floats your
boat.

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Ed Cryer

Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article<jecfhd$87d$1@dont-email.me>,
> Ed Cryer<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article<4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.ast raweb.com>,
>>> Gary<gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
>>>> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
>>>> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
>>>> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?
>>>
>>> That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
>>> Read this article to understand what's happening:
>>>
>>> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
>>> works.html>
>>
>> I've monitored and examined this process using the System app. And I've
>> come to the conclusion that iOS has a big problem with memory
>> allocation. It's the Suspended state of memory-hogging that causes the
>> problem. What iOS does is use as much RAM as it can, and only clear out
>> when it needs space.
>
> What you just described is how most Unix operating systems work today.
>
>> In the System app, look at the memory usage diagram, clear the
>> white-marked area, see available RAM grow.
>
> What "System" application are you talking about?
>
>> You can try my proven method as a test. Run as normal until it takes
>> some time to give the click-off sound after pressing the button; about a
>> second or so delay. Reboot, run a program, press off button and get the
>> click-off sound immediately.
>
> I don't recall ever seeing a significant delay on my iPhone 4. As soon
> as I press the sleep button, the screen goes dark.
>
>> I now reboot daily.
>
> That seems like a really silly thing to do, but whatever floats your
> boat.
>

Don't be stupid, birdbrain.

Ed

Alan Browne

On 2012-01-08 10:40 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.ast raweb.com>,
> Gary<gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
>> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
>> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
>> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?
>
> That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
> Read this article to understand what's happening:
>
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
> works.html>

Good article. Thanks.

It would be nice if (eg.):

-Running apps that are in background were highlighted with a green
square around them.

-Foreground, but inactive, highlighted with a yellow square around them.

-Suspended/resident - not running, orange square.

Symbol/color could be different, just putting up the notion that it
should be easily identifiable.

--
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Douglas Adams - (Could have been a GPS engineer).

Tom Stiller

In article <6sOdnWzouoe2oJfSnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2012-01-08 10:40 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article<4f09b3f0$0$20331$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.ast raweb.com>,
> > Gary<gary_w1@hotline.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know what this app actually does? I downloaded it and
> >> killed all running process (except 2), but when I then went to the
> >> multitasking screen (press home twice), the apps that were supposed to
> >> have been killed were still there. So what is the app doing?
> >
> > That screen shows recently opened apps; they are not necessarily running.
> > Read this article to understand what's happening:
> >
> > <http://www.macworld.com/article/1646...asking_really_
> > works.html>
>
> Good article. Thanks.
>
> It would be nice if (eg.):
>
> -Running apps that are in background were highlighted with a green
> square around them.
>
> -Foreground, but inactive, highlighted with a yellow square around them.
>
> -Suspended/resident - not running, orange square.
>
> Symbol/color could be different, just putting up the notion that it
> should be easily identifiable.

What would you do differently if you had that information?

--
PRAY, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

Michelle Steiner

In article <6sOdnWzouoe2oJfSnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> It would be nice if (eg.):
>
> -Running apps that are in background were highlighted with a green
> square around them.
>
> -Foreground, but inactive, highlighted with a yellow square around them.

Since only one app can be in the foreground, it's active. And is not shown
in the recent-apps bar.

I doubt that there are enough people interested in this for it to be worth
Apple's time, and if Apple did do it, they would have a devil of a time
explaining what it means to the average user.

-- Michelle

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Michelle Steiner

In article <jed4cp$cmi$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
wrote:

> > That seems like a really silly thing to do, but whatever floats your
> > boat.
>
> Don't be stupid, birdbrain.

"whatever floats your boat" means essentially, do what you want; it won't
hurt anything. So he's stupid and a birdbrain for saying that?

I note that you didn't answer his question about what "System" app you're
talking about.

--
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Wes Groleau

On 01-08-2012 11:14, Ed Cryer wrote:
> I now reboot daily.

I reboot when it acts up. Maybe once a week. And I think that's the
fault of certain apps, not of IOS.

--
Wes Groleau

You always have time for what you do first.