Paul Z Humphrey

On 10/13/2011 04:11 PM, Your Name wrote:

> It was actually salgud who replied to him. I simply warned others
about
> the moron changing names again. :-\

Nice contribution! To make your posts even more obnoxious and empty, you
could develop some ascii art like Kiraly's.

OTOH, it would be nice of you to do like Mezei and discuss with Zara,
MuahMan, RedJak -- all nicks used at once! -- Apple's bogeyman
portraying as a fascist, racist, Obama basher Republican for a good
slapstick show adding more noise to the group than you, Jolly Jumper and
Király already contribute.

The last thing that should happen is Applites learning how badly screwed
they are buying those shoebox computers and how a wave is already
created to wash away this crazy bunch of Moronites.

Share of worldwide 2011 Q2 smartphone sales to end users by operating
system, according to Gartner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sm...re_current.png

Android has now 48% market share vs 19% for Android. Which means that,
compared to Android, iOS' share is only 39.6% And pretty much all this
happened in the last year with much more to come in the next.

And investors wouldn't see this? They would be crazy enough to keep
Apple's market cap at more than $ 30G the value of... Exxon ? No bubble
maintained here as in the dot.com days that profits the banks and will
once again crash the economy?

And at the bottom of all this is you Morons paying ludicrous prices for
lowest bidder no-real-specs crap. But this shouldn't be said to keep you
Morons' peace of brainless mind?

Tom Stiller

In article <j77kia$s25$1@dont-email.me>,
Paul Z Humphrey <pzh@humpy128.com> wrote:

> On 10/13/2011 04:11 PM, Your Name wrote:
>
> > It was actually salgud who replied to him. I simply warned others
> about
> > the moron changing names again. :-\
>
> Nice contribution! To make your posts even more obnoxious and empty, you
> could develop some ascii art like Kiraly's.
>
> OTOH, it would be nice of you to do like Mezei and discuss with Zara,
> MuahMan, RedJak -- all nicks used at once! -- Apple's bogeyman
> portraying as a fascist, racist, Obama basher Republican for a good
> slapstick show adding more noise to the group than you, Jolly Jumper and
> Király already contribute.
>
> The last thing that should happen is Applites learning how badly screwed
> they are buying those shoebox computers and how a wave is already
> created to wash away this crazy bunch of Moronites.
>
> Share of worldwide 2011 Q2 smartphone sales to end users by operating
> system, according to Gartner:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sm...re_current.png
>
> Android has now 48% market share vs 19% for Android. Which means that,
> compared to Android, iOS' share is only 39.6% And pretty much all this
> happened in the last year with much more to come in the next.
>
> And investors wouldn't see this? They would be crazy enough to keep
> Apple's market cap at more than $ 30G the value of... Exxon ? No bubble
> maintained here as in the dot.com days that profits the banks and will
> once again crash the economy?
>
> And at the bottom of all this is you Morons paying ludicrous prices for
> lowest bidder no-real-specs crap. But this shouldn't be said to keep you
> Morons' peace of brainless mind?

I don't know whichI enjoy more: using my Apple gear or reading how much
you cry about how I'm not getting my money's worth. Priceless!

--
PRAY, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

Tim Streater

In article <tom_stiller-3EFC24.18355013102011@news.individual.net>,
Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <j77kia$s25$1@dont-email.me>,
> Paul Z Humphrey <pzh@humpy128.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10/13/2011 04:11 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >
> > > It was actually salgud who replied to him. I simply warned others
> > about
> > > the moron changing names again. :-\
> >
> > Nice contribution! To make your posts even more obnoxious and empty, you
> > could develop some ascii art like Kiraly's.
> >
> > OTOH, it would be nice of you to do like Mezei and discuss with Zara,
> > MuahMan, RedJak -- all nicks used at once! -- Apple's bogeyman
> > portraying as a fascist, racist, Obama basher Republican for a good
> > slapstick show adding more noise to the group than you, Jolly Jumper and
> > Király already contribute.
> >
> > The last thing that should happen is Applites learning how badly screwed
> > they are buying those shoebox computers and how a wave is already
> > created to wash away this crazy bunch of Moronites.
> >
> > Share of worldwide 2011 Q2 smartphone sales to end users by operating
> > system, according to Gartner:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sm...re_current.png
> >
> > Android has now 48% market share vs 19% for Android. Which means that,
> > compared to Android, iOS' share is only 39.6% And pretty much all this
> > happened in the last year with much more to come in the next.
> >
> > And investors wouldn't see this? They would be crazy enough to keep
> > Apple's market cap at more than $ 30G the value of... Exxon ? No bubble
> > maintained here as in the dot.com days that profits the banks and will
> > once again crash the economy?
> >
> > And at the bottom of all this is you Morons paying ludicrous prices for
> > lowest bidder no-real-specs crap. But this shouldn't be said to keep you
> > Morons' peace of brainless mind?
>
> I don't know whichI enjoy more: using my Apple gear or reading how much
> you cry about how I'm not getting my money's worth. Priceless!

He *is* a twerp, isn't he! Almost a worse fathead than spinoza1111
(q.v.).

--
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689

Wes Groleau

On 10-13-2011 18:35, Tom Stiller wrote:
> I don't know whichI enjoy more: using my Apple gear or reading how much
> you cry about how I'm not getting my money's worth. Priceless!

I know what I _don't_ enjoy: Seeing people (who seem civilized in
other ways) help the crybaby get his whines past my filters.

--
Wes Groleau

There are two types of people in the world …
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157

Paul Z Humphrey

On 10/13/2011 06:35 PM, Tom Stiller wrote:

> I don't know whichI enjoy more: using my Apple gear or reading how much
> you cry about how I'm not getting my money's worth. Priceless!

If I thought I'd envoy a Mac more than my clone with Linux, I'd buy one
tomorrow. The problem is being ripped off doesn't make me smile.

At the present time, you see, OS X has about 6% of the world market
share and 15% of the Moron decadent US market. iOS sales have declined
to 39.6% that of Android.

Result?

Apple Could Buy Goldman Sachs With Its $76 Billion in Cash
JUL 19 2011, 8:00 PM ET

With $76 billion in "cash" (or cash equivalents and securities), Apple
has enough money in the bank to purchase Goldman Sachs at its current
market value ... and still have change left over to buy LinkedIn and
Twitter. Seriously."

<http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/apple-could-buy-goldman-sachs-with-its-76-billion-in-cash/242219/>

And the little doggy has the largest market cap in the world: $30-some
Bn more than Exxon.

So tell yourself this. Whenever you smile, investors are ROTFLOL. They
really believe Apple will milk you to the last drop. That's not me.
That's investors saying this.

China Blue Corn Chips

> If I thought I'd envoy a Mac more than my clone with Linux, I'd buy one

Uh...well...then don't. Problem solved.

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Mr. Strat

In article <j782ds$je5$1@dont-email.me>, Paul Z Humphrey
<pzh@humpy128.com> wrote:

> At the present time, you see, OS X has about 6% of the world market
> share and 15% of the Moron decadent US market. iOS sales have declined
> to 39.6% that of Android.

And Britney Spears has sold a lot of records - that doesn't mean she's
a good singer.

Paul Z Humphrey

On 10/13/2011 09:42 PM, China Blue Corn Chips wrote:
>> If I thought I'd envoy a Mac more than my clone with Linux, I'd buy one
>
> Uh...well...then don't. Problem solved.

It would be if Apple and I didn't live on the same planet.

What is Apple exactly? It's a marketing and sales company that, as it
was building the 1984 look-alike company, has convinced its users that
they were fighting the 1984 spirit. There's not much brainz in Apple.

Of course, they have bought P.A. Semi, they have hired a team of CPU
designers and, to the basic ARM Cortex design, they have added
"features". Qualcomm does the same with SnapDragon, Nvidia with Tegra
and. last and least, Texas Instrument with OMAP. How much does the A5
and the Apple logo you see on the chip mean? Not much, I'm afraid. On
super-computers, where engineers look for maximum power vs energy
consumption, I would think the Tegra is the most popular.

IBM was founded in 1911, Samsung in 1938, Intel in1968. They've been
producing ever since. Production is a culture. ARM was founded in 1990,
but it was previously part of Acorn computers, founded 1978. Give just a
foundry to Apple, could it come up with a chip? I more than doubt it.
That's what IBM, Samsung and Intel do every day.

Since the return of Steve Jobs, Apple has always outsourced. They don't
even operate servers. Akamai does all the job for them. (Of course,
Apple has concluded a "strategic partnership".) They design nice
computers and the boxes to put them in. They're money oriented.

Renault, in France, was like this for a while. Finally they found out
the company was just an empty shell. They began recuperating
manufacturing and knowledge.

So how much is Apple really worth? It has $80 Bn in near-cash, offices
worldwide, nice headquarters. Staff has been recruited. Etc. Let's say
the US economy doesn't collapse -- in which case God only knows which
value would be left -- how much is Apple worth? Intel has about $14 Bn
available cash but it sells CPUs worldwide and it's market cap is only $
122.82Bn. Could Apple really be worth more than Intel?

Whether they sell jeans or computers, Asian products importers have huge
mark-ups and their shares soar. But now, the companies that know --
Samsung, IBM, Google(1) -- want their share and all the hoopla and the
nice packaging might not prevent users of Apple products to discover
that they're plainly being had.

(1) Google is one of the largest and most complex content delivery
networks. Most of the software stack that Google uses on their servers
was developed in-house. the power required for ~ 450,000 servers range
upwards of 20 megawatts, which cost on the order of US$2 million per
month in electricity charges. The combined processing power of these
servers might reach from 20 to 100 petaflops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_platform

IOW, their business is not fairy tales.
――――――――――――――――†•â€•â€•â€•â€•

So, even if the US economy doesn't collapse, Apple might very well. And
since there are many companies cashing in on cheap sweatshops labor in
Asia, investors, who believe in trends, might very well decide to sell,
which could bring a US economy collapse.

What's the solution? Praise Apple products "unbelievable value" like
Steiner and so many here, including you, do? Hope that the bubble will
keep inflating until Apple's market cap. is a trillion $ ?

I believe it would be preferable if investors understood now that it
simply makes no sense that Apple's market cap is larger than Exxon's.

So, this is why I care about how Apple is managed.

Paul Z Humphrey

On 10/13/2011 09:42 PM, China Blue Corn Chips wrote:
>> If I thought I'd envoy a Mac more than my clone with Linux, I'd buy one
>
> Uh...well...then don't. Problem solved.

It would be if Apple and I didn't live in the same planet.

What is Apple exactly? It's a marketing and sales company that, as it
was building the 1984 look-alike company, has convinced its users that
they were fighting the 1984 spirit. There's not much brainz in Apple.

Of course, they have bought P.A. Semi, they have hired a team of CPU
designers and, to the basic ARM Cortex design, they have added
"features". Qualcomm does the same with SnapDragon, Nvidia with Tegra
and. last and least, Texas Instrument with OMAP. How much does the A5
and the Apple logo you see on the chip mean? Not much, I'm afraid. On
super-computers, where engineers look for maximum power vs energy
consumption, I would think the Tegra is the most popular.

IBM was founded in 1911, Samsung in 1938, Intel in1968. They've been
producing ever since. Production is a culture. ARM was founded in 1990,
but it was previously part of Acorn computers, founded 1978. Give just a
foundry to Apple, could it come up with a chip? I more than doubt it.
That's what IBM, Samsung and Intel do every day.

Since the return of Steve Jobs, Apple has always outsourced. They don't
even operate servers. Akamai does all the job for them. (Of course,
Apple has concluded a "strategic partnership".) They design nice
computers and the boxes to put them in. They're money oriented.

Renault, in France, was like this for a while. Finally they found out
the company was just an empty shell. They began recuperating
manufacturing and knowledge.

So how much is Apple really worth? It has $80 Bn in near-cash, offices
worldwide, nice headquarters. Staff has been recruited. Etc. Let's say
the US economy doesn't collapse -- in which case God only knows which
value would be left -- how much is Apple worth? Intel has about $14 Bn
available cash but it sells CPUs worldwide and it's market cap is only $
122.82Bn. Could Apple really be worth more than Intel?

Whether they sell jeans or computers, Asian products importers have huge
mark-ups and their shares soar. But now, the companies that know --
Samsung, IBM, Google(1) -- want their share and all the hoopla and the
nice packaging might not prevent users of Apple products to discover
that they're plainly being had.

(1) Google is one of the largest and most complex content delivery
networks. Most of the software stack that Google uses on their servers
was developed in-house. the power required for ~ 450,000 servers range
upwards of 20 megawatts, which cost on the order of US$2 million per
month in electricity charges. The combined processing power of these
servers might reach from 20 to 100 petaflops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_platform

IOW, their business is not fairy tales.
――――――――――――――――†•â€•â€•â€•â€•

So, even if the US economy doesn't collapse, Apple might very well. And
since there are many companies cashing in on cheap sweatshops labor in
Asia, investors, who believe in trends, might very well decide to sell,
which could bring a US economy collapse.

What's the solution? Praise Apple products "unbelievable value" like
Steiner and so many here, including you, do? Hope that the bubble will
keep inflating until Apple's market cap. is a trillion $ ?

I believe it would be preferable if investors understood now that it
simply makes no sense that Apple's market cap is larger than Exxon's.

So, this is why I care about how Apple is managed.

China Blue Corn Chips

In article <j78cgv$2gh$1@dont-email.me>, Paul Z Humphrey <pzh@humpy128.com>
wrote:

> On 10/13/2011 09:42 PM, China Blue Corn Chips wrote:
> >> If I thought I'd envoy a Mac more than my clone with Linux, I'd buy one
> >
> > Uh...well...then don't. Problem solved.
>
> It would be if Apple and I didn't live in the same planet.

You don't.

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C'est francais /|Â¥ I'm whoever you want me to be.
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- China Azul | At least I can stay in character.