Carl Heinz

Since I only have around thirty apps, finding one in a group generally isn't a
problem.

However, I've sometimes had significant problems in remembering where to find
the book I'm currently reading. I've got most of the collections by author or
series within author. Unfortunately if it's a new author and a first read,
being able to return to it can be a problem. My work around is having a
"Currently Reading" collection and moving books in and out of it when I'm
reading them.

What I'd like to see is a change to the "Books" display in iTunes that would
list the collection a book is in on the iPad.

I wonder if it also wouldn't be possible to modify the apps display in iTunes
to indicate group.

I know that this doesn't answer the problem of wanting icons for the same app
in multiple groups, but the grandchildren are either too distant, or aren't
given access to my iPad when they're here. For those living close, their
games are on PC's at home and they have access to a PC here. Those living far
away have access to their iPad.
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Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
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BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> writes:

> However, I've sometimes had significant problems in remembering where
> to find the book I'm currently reading. I've got most of the
> collections by author or series within author. Unfortunately if it's
> a new author and a first read, being able to return to it can be a
> problem. My work around is having a "Currently Reading" collection
> and moving books in and out of it when I'm reading them.

Apple's gone and done some goofy things with respect to organizing
things - not just apps, but media in general. You can't get a
list view nor can you sort movies or tv shows either. In fact,
you can't even see entire names of things if they are longer than
a few characters. It's sad.

Nor, in the iBooks app, can you sort other than by title, author
or "categories" - were these are not able to be edited or
modified on the device.

There's a lot of room for improvement on these devices for
media and application organization.

> I know that this doesn't answer the problem of wanting icons for the same app
> in multiple groups, but the grandchildren are either too distant, or aren't
> given access to my iPad when they're here. For those living close, their

There's another entire issue with respect to letting kids (or
other people in general) use one's iOS device. They are
inherently designed as single-user devices right now. There
is no notion of a "guest" user or giving an alternate user
some kind of limited access.

If I let my kid use my iPad, not only can she look at all
her Dr. Seuss books, but she can muck about with my e-mail
and anything else. This is another serious shortcoming.
At the moment, the solution is that the kid only gets
to play with the iPad with serious and constant supervision.

I suspect that Apple's suggested solution is that we buy
several additional iPads. I suppose if they were under $100,
that'd be a reasonable solution.

But I digress.

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Michelle Steiner

In article <yobsjkpznbk.fsf@panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
wrote:

> If I let my kid use my iPad, not only can she look at all her Dr. Seuss
> books, but she can muck about with my e-mail and anything else. This is
> another serious shortcoming. At the moment, the solution is that the kid
> only gets to play with the iPad with serious and constant supervision.

The iPad is not a multi-user device; it is iOS, not Mac OS X.

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Howard Brazee

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:24:22 -0800, Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
wrote:

>However, I've sometimes had significant problems in remembering where to find
>the book I'm currently reading.

It's a lot worse for books that belong to book readers other than
Apple's.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Howard Brazee

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:55:59 -0500, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net wrote:

>Apple's gone and done some goofy things with respect to organizing
>things - not just apps, but media in general. You can't get a
>list view nor can you sort movies or tv shows either. In fact,
>you can't even see entire names of things if they are longer than
>a few characters. It's sad.

Try to find where a photo is. Or which playlist(s) have a song.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Erilar

<BreadWithSpam@fractious.net> wrote:
..
>
> Nor, in the iBooks app, can you sort other than by title, author
> or "categories" - were these are not able to be edited or
> modified on the device.
>
You can invent new categories, though. I really like that option!

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> writes:
> In article <yobsjkpznbk.fsf@panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
> wrote:
>
>> If I let my kid use my iPad, not only can she look at all her Dr. Seuss
>> books, but she can muck about with my e-mail and anything else. This is
>> another serious shortcoming. At the moment, the solution is that the kid
>> only gets to play with the iPad with serious and constant supervision.
>
> The iPad is not a multi-user device; it is iOS, not Mac OS X.

I get that. I just think it's unfortunate, and that there's no
really good reason for that to be the case.

At a minimum, a user should be able to lock down some of the apps
(without jailbreaking).

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Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.

Michelle Steiner

In article <yobfwgpz9kb.fsf@panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
wrote:

> > The iPad is not a multi-user device; it is iOS, not Mac OS X.
>
> I get that. I just think it's unfortunate, and that there's no really
> good reason for that to be the case.

Because making it multi user would entail making the OS much more complex.
I don't see any good reason to make the iPad multi user.

> At a minimum, a user should be able to lock down some of the apps
> (without jailbreaking).

I don't see why. I don't want to have to enter a password just to be able
to launch an application.

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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

BreadWithSpam@fractious.net

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> writes:
> In article <yobfwgpz9kb.fsf@panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
> wrote:

>> At a minimum, a user should be able to lock down some of the apps
>> (without jailbreaking).
>
> I don't see why. I don't want to have to enter a password just to be able
> to launch an application.

For the same reason when someone else uses your computer,
you don't leave it logged in as yourself.

Even if not a true multi-user device like a Mac, there's
no good reason it couldn't accomodate a limited "guest"
user which only has access to a specific subset of apps.
It would be easy and very useful.

Maybe you never share. I'd like to be able to do so.




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Michelle Steiner

In article <yobd3bti6uf.fsf@panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
wrote:

> >> At a minimum, a user should be able to lock down some of the apps
> >> (without jailbreaking).
> >
> > I don't see why. I don't want to have to enter a password just to be
> > able to launch an application.
>
> For the same reason when someone else uses your computer, you don't
> leave it logged in as yourself.

That's why I enter a password when I wake up the iPad from sleep or turn it
on.

> Even if not a true multi-user device like a Mac, there's no good reason
> it couldn't accomodate a limited "guest" user which only has access to a
> specific subset of apps. It would be easy and very useful.

Simply put, that's not what it's designed to do; it's designed to be a
single-user device.

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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.