JF Mezei

Jolly Roger wrote:

> What matters most to Apple is that its customers are happy.

Apple has fiduciary duty to its shareholders to perform well. That its
its primary duty and legal obligation.

Having happy customers is means to get it, it is not a goal.

Michelle

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> What matters most to Apple is that its customers are happy.
>
> Apple has fiduciary duty to its shareholders to perform well. That its
> its primary duty and legal obligation.
>
> Having happy customers is means to get it, it is not a goal.

Primary does not mean only. Happy customers can very well be a goal.
Also goal and duty are not the same thing
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4c8d1de9$0$1585$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> On 9/11/2010 5:11 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> > SMS wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know why you're so upset about Android outselling iOS. Clearly
> >> Apple is happy where they are with the iPhone and has no intention of
> >> licensing the OS in order to be "#1" since that's never been of
> >> importance to them in the past with their computers.
> >
> > the Apple II had a huge piece of the personal computer market, until IBM
> > woke up and produced some junk with the IBM label on it.
> >
> > The MAC then found itself with a huge piece of the graphic artist market
> > until the big apps were ported to Windows.
>
> The Mac was great except that its closed architecture drove all the
> business, commercial, and industrial customers from the Apple II to the
> PC. I was working for a company that made networking add-on cards for
> the Apple II. All our customers switched to the PC architecture because
> of the closed Mac architecture. They never switched back even when Apple
> went back to an architecture with PCI slots.

Wrong again. For most people it was simply the price of the Mac. The "PC"
was cheaper so they chose that, and have been paying the price ever since
with buggy Microsoft rubbish and virus ridden silliness.

Your Name

"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote in message
news:4c8d4baf$0$5055$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > What matters most to Apple is that its customers are happy.
>
> Apple has fiduciary duty to its shareholders to perform well. That its
> its primary duty and legal obligation.
>
> Having happy customers is means to get it, it is not a goal.

A company that concentrates on pleasing its shareholders instead of its
customers is usually one that goes down the toilet very quickly ... but a
company that concentrates on keeping its customers happy will also please
the shareholders.

Common Sense Business Rule #1: The customer comes first.

Real World Business Rule #1: Stuff the customer, screw the company, let us
greedy management idiots just fill our own pockets and get out quick. :-(

Walter Bushell

In article <i6kf9k$ccb$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
"Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote:

> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4c8d1de9$0$1585$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> > On 9/11/2010 5:11 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> > > SMS wrote:
> > >
> > >> I don't know why you're so upset about Android outselling iOS. Clearly
> > >> Apple is happy where they are with the iPhone and has no intention of
> > >> licensing the OS in order to be "#1" since that's never been of
> > >> importance to them in the past with their computers.
> > >
> > > the Apple II had a huge piece of the personal computer market, until IBM
> > > woke up and produced some junk with the IBM label on it.
> > >
> > > The MAC then found itself with a huge piece of the graphic artist market
> > > until the big apps were ported to Windows.
> >
> > The Mac was great except that its closed architecture drove all the
> > business, commercial, and industrial customers from the Apple II to the
> > PC. I was working for a company that made networking add-on cards for
> > the Apple II. All our customers switched to the PC architecture because
> > of the closed Mac architecture. They never switched back even when Apple
> > went back to an architecture with PCI slots.
>
> Wrong again. For most people it was simply the price of the Mac. The "PC"
> was cheaper so they chose that, and have been paying the price ever since
> with buggy Microsoft rubbish and virus ridden silliness.

And the PCI cards were much more expensive. Even IBM could not sell its
micro channel architecture at a higher price even though it was superior.

Prices were higher in those days, you can get a fairly well equipped Mac
Pro for the price as the original Mac.

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Cannot put the Gulf of Mexico together again.

Jolly Roger

In article <4c8d4baf$0$5055$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > What matters most to Apple is that its customers are happy.
>
> Apple has fiduciary duty to its shareholders to perform well. That its
> its primary duty and legal obligation.
>
> Having happy customers is means to get it, it is not a goal.

Wrong.

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Jolly Roger

In article <i6jec2$ggj$1@tioat.net>,
Junior <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

> George Kerby wrote:
> > On 9/12/10 3:03 PM, in article
> > jollyroger-0C1D85.15033512092010@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <i6ja9d$fi6$1@tioat.net>,
> >> Junior <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>> SMS wrote:
> >>>> On 9/11/2010 5:11 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> >>>>> SMS wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't know why you're so upset about Android outselling iOS. Clearly
> >>>>>> Apple is happy where they are with the iPhone and has no intention of
> >>>>>> licensing the OS in order to be "#1" since that's never been of
> >>>>>> importance to them in the past with their computers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Apple II had a huge piece of the personal computer market, until IBM
> >>>>> woke up and produced some junk with the IBM label on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The MAC then found itself with a huge piece of the graphic artist market
> >>>>> until the big apps were ported to Windows.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Mac was great except that its closed architecture drove all the
> >>>> business, commercial, and industrial customers from the Apple II to the
> >>>> PC. I was working for a company that made networking add-on cards for
> >>>> the Apple II. All our customers switched to the PC architecture because
> >>>> of the closed Mac architecture. They never switched back even when Apple
> >>>> went back to an architecture with PCI slots.
> >>>
> >>> I'm wondering how much influence Steve Jobs (Peace be upon him) has
> >>> had on the Apple Sacred Business Model and if he has the authority
> >>> to issue a fatwa calling for the death of Linux, and supporters of
> >>> Industry Standard Architecture, Open-source software and other
> >>> infidels.
> >>
> >> Don't quit your day job, Junior.
> >
> > I thinkin' he may have had his 'tongue in cheek'?
>
> I'm trying to determine how ludicrous something needs to be and the
> span of time before someone replies who apparently doesn't get it.
> There's a line from the movie, Meet Joe Black that comes to mind:
> "Multiply it by infinity, and take it to the depth of forever, and
> you will still have barely a glimpse of what I'm talking about."

The fact that you're one of those people who actually sat through "Meet
Joe Black" without vomiting all over yourself says everything I need to
know about you.

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SMS

On 9/8/2010 9:47 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:

<snip>

> The iPhone is an excellent device with a few glaringly annoying flaws.
> Its "disposability" is one of them. Are there any features of the iPhone
> you'd like to see changed, or is anything boxed in Cupertino blessed with
> perfection?

Pretty much everything, and everyone in Cupertino is blessed with
perfection. Every morning I wake up and just marvel about how perfect it is.

George Kerby

On 9/13/10 8:21 AM, in article
jollyroger-37486C.08213713092010@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <i6jec2$ggj$1@tioat.net>,
> Junior <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> George Kerby wrote:
>>> On 9/12/10 3:03 PM, in article
>>> jollyroger-0C1D85.15033512092010@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <i6ja9d$fi6$1@tioat.net>,
>>>> Junior <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SMS wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/11/2010 5:11 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>>>>>>> SMS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know why you're so upset about Android outselling iOS. Clearly
>>>>>>>> Apple is happy where they are with the iPhone and has no intention of
>>>>>>>> licensing the OS in order to be "#1" since that's never been of
>>>>>>>> importance to them in the past with their computers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Apple II had a huge piece of the personal computer market, until IBM
>>>>>>> woke up and produced some junk with the IBM label on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The MAC then found itself with a huge piece of the graphic artist market
>>>>>>> until the big apps were ported to Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac was great except that its closed architecture drove all the
>>>>>> business, commercial, and industrial customers from the Apple II to the
>>>>>> PC. I was working for a company that made networking add-on cards for
>>>>>> the Apple II. All our customers switched to the PC architecture because
>>>>>> of the closed Mac architecture. They never switched back even when Apple
>>>>>> went back to an architecture with PCI slots.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering how much influence Steve Jobs (Peace be upon him) has
>>>>> had on the Apple Sacred Business Model and if he has the authority
>>>>> to issue a fatwa calling for the death of Linux, and supporters of
>>>>> Industry Standard Architecture, Open-source software and other
>>>>> infidels.
>>>>
>>>> Don't quit your day job, Junior.
>>>
>>> I thinkin' he may have had his 'tongue in cheek'?
>>
>> I'm trying to determine how ludicrous something needs to be and the
>> span of time before someone replies who apparently doesn't get it.
>> There's a line from the movie, Meet Joe Black that comes to mind:
>> "Multiply it by infinity, and take it to the depth of forever, and
>> you will still have barely a glimpse of what I'm talking about."
>
> The fact that you're one of those people who actually sat through "Meet
> Joe Black" without vomiting all over yourself says everything I need to
> know about you.

Anything with Brad Pitt leads me to uncontrollable cookie-chunking.

Michelle

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 9/8/2010 9:47 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> The iPhone is an excellent device with a few glaringly annoying
> > flaws.
>> Its "disposability" is one of them. Are there any features of the
> > iPhone
>> you'd like to see changed, or is anything boxed in Cupertino blessed
> > with
>> perfection?
>
> Pretty much everything, and everyone in Cupertino is blessed with
> perfection. Every morning I wake up and just marvel about how perfect
> it is.

Nah, it's just that they are so much less imperfect than you that you
can't tell the difference between their imperfection and true
perfection.
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