KP

I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
etc.

I can't seem to find them now.

Was I wrong? Or have they been removed? If so, why and how do I go
about getting them?

There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain disks...

KP

On Oct 18, 2:48*pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
> domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
> were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
> etc.
>
> I can't seem to find them now.
>
> Was I wrong? *Or have they been removed? *If so, why and how do I go
> about getting them?
>
> There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain disks...

I think what I'm referring to were the "White Disks" referenced on
this page: http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/landove.../Applications/

Is it safe to assume that anything on those pages is contained in the
archive of mirrors.apple2.org.za found here?
ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...ther_archives/

Namely: ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...008-07-23).zip

And does anyone know whether a new dump of the .org.za site is going
to be done any time soon? Because the more recent dump is listed as
only "partial":
ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...011-07-22).zip

D Finnigan

KP wrote:
> I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
> domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
> were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
> etc.
>
> I can't seem to find them now.
>

I haven't checked Asimov yet, but the White Disks are also here:

http://macgui.com/downloads/?cat_id=97

KP

On Oct 18, 3:05*pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2:48*pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
> > etc.
>
> > I can't seem to find them now.
>
> > Was I wrong? *Or have they been removed? *If so, why and how do I go
> > about getting them?
>
> > There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain disks...
>
> I think what I'm referring to were the "White Disks" referenced on
> this page:http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/landove.../Applications/
>
> Is it safe to assume that anything on those pages is contained in the
> archive of mirrors.apple2.org.za found here?ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...ther_archives/
>
> Namely:ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>
> And does anyone know whether a new dump of the .org.za site is going
> to be done any time soon? *Because the more recent dump is listed as
> only "partial":ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...

I suppose what I'm asking is: If I back up Asimov, then have I also
successfully backed up all of the other archives out there?

Or is there a substantial collection of other stuff, elsewhere on the
internet, that Asimov doesn't mirror or parrallel in some way?

I would like to avoid duplication of effort but I also don't want to
miss an important trove somewhere! :-)

D Finnigan

KP wrote:
> On Oct 18, 3:05�pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 2:48�pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
>> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
>> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
>> > etc.
>>
>> > I can't seem to find them now.
>>
>> > Was I wrong? �Or have they been removed? �If so, why and how do I
go
>> > about getting them?
>>
>> > There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain disks...
>>
>> I think what I'm referring to were the "White Disks" referenced on
>> this page:http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/landove.../Applications/
>>
>> Is it safe to assume that anything on those pages is contained in the
>> archive of mirrors.apple2.org.za found
>> here?ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...ther_archives/
>>
>>
Namely:ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>>
>> And does anyone know whether a new dump of the .org.za site is going
>> to be done any time soon? �Because the more recent dump is listed as
>> only
>>
"partial":ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>
> I suppose what I'm asking is: If I back up Asimov, then have I also
> successfully backed up all of the other archives out there?
>
> Or is there a substantial collection of other stuff, elsewhere on the
> internet, that Asimov doesn't mirror or parrallel in some way?
>
> I would like to avoid duplication of effort but I also don't want to
> miss an important trove somewhere! :-)
>

Have you sent in for your copy of the Vault DVD collection yet? ;-)

KP

On Oct 18, 3:11*pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
> KP wrote:
> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
> > etc.
>
> > I can't seem to find them now.
>
> I haven't checked Asimov yet, but the White Disks are also here:
>
> http://macgui.com/downloads/?cat_id=97

So how much of the stuff on macgui.com is NOT duplicated/mirrored on
asimov?

It seems ridiculous to have stuff so dispersed. Isn't it possible to
narrow down the number of sites that it is necessary to go to?

If you wanted your own personal Apple II archive, it should be
possible to just tell an FTP client to suck down everything at Asimov
and let that be the end of it. What is out there, but not at Asimov?

KP

On Oct 18, 3:16*pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
> KP wrote:
> > On Oct 18, 3:05 pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 18, 2:48 pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
> >> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
> >> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
> >> > etc.
>
> >> > I can't seem to find them now.
>
> >> > Was I wrong? Or have they been removed? If so, why and how do I
> go
> >> > about getting them?
>
> >> > There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain disks....
>
> >> I think what I'm referring to were the "White Disks" referenced on
> >> this page:http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/landove.../Applications/
>
> >> Is it safe to assume that anything on those pages is contained in the
> >> archive of mirrors.apple2.org.za found
> >> here?ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...ther_archives/
>
> Namely:ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>
> >> And does anyone know whether a new dump of the .org.za site is going
> >> to be done any time soon? Because the more recent dump is listed as
> >> only
>
> "partial":ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>
>
>
> > I suppose what I'm asking is: If I back up Asimov, then have I also
> > successfully backed up all of the other archives out there?
>
> > Or is there a substantial collection of other stuff, elsewhere on the
> > internet, that Asimov doesn't mirror or parrallel in some way?
>
> > I would like to avoid duplication of effort but I also don't want to
> > miss an important trove somewhere! *:-)
>
> Have you sent in for your copy of the Vault DVD collection yet? ;-)- Hidequoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Damnit, I forgot!

Do you still have them? I need to get on that. :-(

D Finnigan

KP wrote:
> On Oct 18, 3:11�pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
>> KP wrote:
>> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
>> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
>> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk 02A"
>> > etc.
>>
>> > I can't seem to find them now.
>>
>> I haven't checked Asimov yet, but the White Disks are also here:
>>
>> http://macgui.com/downloads/?cat_id=97
>
> So how much of the stuff on macgui.com is NOT duplicated/mirrored on
> asimov?
>

Well... Here are the main sections of Vault:

- Downloads:
Nearly everything marked with an orange "Exclusive" star. Some of these
files have been copied to Asimov, but most haven't, and these are disks from
my personal collection.

People have also sent in files and PDFs to be added to the Vault collection.
I don't know if they have been added to Vault; I haven't done it.

Probably less than 1,000 files are exclusive to Vault. (I don't have the
exact figure now, but I can check if you're curious)

- Usenet:
Basically Vault is the only source of all binaries, plus there's everything
that Google Groups has, plus a bit more (articles that were nuked, for
example)

- KB:
Most of the text files and PDFs came from other sites, so you're probably
safe there.

- Photos:
Mostly photos of my own collection. As far as I know, they haven't been
copied to any other site

- Mirrors:
I have tens of gigabytes of mirrors of many other sites, but it looks live
Asimov has most of them too.

So if you send a SASE, I will send you back the 3-DVD Vault collection,
which contains all of the above except for the Usenet articles and Mirrors.

And then you will ... finally... have it all. ;-)

--
]DF$
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
Macintosh computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/

D Finnigan

KP wrote:
> On Oct 18, 3:16�pm, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
>> KP wrote:
>> > On Oct 18, 3:05 pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Oct 18, 2:48 pm, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > I seem to recall that at some point there was a big batch of public
>> >> > domain software on Asimov in several dozen 140K floppy images that
>> >> > were something like "White Disk 01A" "White Disk 01B" "White Disk
>> >> > 02A"
>> >> > etc.
>>
>> >> > I can't seem to find them now.
>>
>> >> > Was I wrong? Or have they been removed? If so, why and how do I
>> go
>> >> > about getting them?
>>
>> >> > There were a lot of real gems on those obscure public domain
>> >> > disks...
>>
>> >> I think what I'm referring to were the "White Disks" referenced on
>> >> this
>> >> page:http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/landove.../Applications/
>>
>> >> Is it safe to assume that anything on those pages is contained in the
>> >> archive of mirrors.apple2.org.za found
>> >> here?ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...ther_archives/
>>
>>
Namely:ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>>
>> >> And does anyone know whether a new dump of the .org.za site is going
>> >> to be done any time soon? Because the more recent dump is listed as
>> >> only
>>
>>
"partial":ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple...chives/Apple_I...
>>
>>
>>
>> > I suppose what I'm asking is: If I back up Asimov, then have I also
>> > successfully backed up all of the other archives out there?
>>
>> > Or is there a substantial collection of other stuff, elsewhere on the
>> > internet, that Asimov doesn't mirror or parrallel in some way?
>>
>> > I would like to avoid duplication of effort but I also don't want to
>> > miss an important trove somewhere! �:-)
>>
>> Have you sent in for your copy of the Vault DVD collection yet? ;-)- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Damnit, I forgot!
>
> Do you still have them? I need to get on that. :-(
>

Yes, but they're slowly disappearing. Do not delay. Email me (again, if need
be) for full details. If you send your SASE in the mail tomorrow, you could
have your copy by Saturday, or Monday at the latest. I've got a fast
turn-around time. I get them in the mail the next day after receiving the
SASE.

--
]DF$
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
Macintosh computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/

D Finnigan

D Finnigan wrote:
>
> People have also sent in files and PDFs to be added to the Vault
> collection.
> I don't know if they have been added to Vault; I haven't done it.
>

Oops, typo. That 2nd sentence should read:

I don't know if they have been added to Asimov; I haven't done it.