IUnknown

My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
occasionally.

I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.

So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
there is some apple stuff over here'.

I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
it.....

'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.

So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
$1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
up in a dumpster otherwise..... How much of this great stuff ended
up in landfills?

This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
steal

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...8#ht_572wt_901

Michael Black

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:

> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise..... How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting
things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something
exotic.

The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the
sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.

Michael

kynrek

On Oct 17, 10:05*am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise..... * How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...Apple-II-GS-FX...

That's awesome I just picked ap a iigs system with the keyboard,
monitor, mouse, 3.5 and 5.25 drive for $50 on Craigslist.

PZ

An ADB keyboard is a score these days. Sure, we used to be able to
find computers with ZipGSX's and Second Sight Cards too, just waiting
to get thrown out. An extra keyboard will supplement the dozens of
keyboardless CPU's that are out there. Good find.

On Oct 17, 8:34*am, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:
> > My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> > occasionally.
>
> > I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> > she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> > it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> > So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> > couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> > day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> > locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> > there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> > I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> > printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> > apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> > it.....
>
> > 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> > So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> > $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> > up in a dumpster otherwise..... * How much of this great stuff ended
> > up in landfills?
>
> After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting
> things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something
> exotic.
>
> The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the
> sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.
>
> * * *Michael

Kevin Dady

On Oct 17, 9:05*am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise..... * How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...Apple-II-GS-FX...

heh the only luck I have had at a yardsale (outside of my dec386 lappy
but in apple terms) was someone had a bag of old mouses, in there was
1 ADB mouse, I asked how much the bag was and got 40$ and that was
including 2 dumpy looking CRT VGA monitors and a broken compaq pentium
chunk of ... with no exceptions, all or nothing, I told her good
luck and left.

Michael Black

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, PZ wrote:

> An ADB keyboard is a score these days. Sure, we used to be able to
> find computers with ZipGSX's and Second Sight Cards too, just waiting
> to get thrown out. An extra keyboard will supplement the dozens of
> keyboardless CPU's that are out there. Good find.
>
I gather from a later message that he needed one, which actually does
make the story much more important. To stumble on something just when
it's needed is always a good find.

I thought he was just talking about finding a spare ADB keyboard, and I've
found them up till even a few years ago.

Maybe I'm just luckier than some, I worry now that people have started
following the "rules" and taking electronics in the special days when
there is a collection. How much perfectly useful stuff is going there now
rather than the garbage, yet just dissovled for parts or whatever because
the collection company can't recognize older equipment? A lot of the small
groups that take donations for rummage sales are getting pickier, too.
Yet the only reason I have a IIGS is because one school about fifteen
years ago had a number of them at their rummage sale, for five dollars
each.

People worry about the neat stuff lost when people throw it out, I see it
as potential to finding neat stuff, that wouldn't happen unless people
threw it out.

I once found a Grappler in amongst some miscellaneous junk. That seemed
like quite a find, to find it in the garbage in the first place, but also
that for someone who recognized what it was to find it.

I did find that 80meg iPod last summer, waiting for a new battery (and it
was tossed out with a soldering iron too). I bought a spare 56K modem
last year at a garage sale, in case my current one dies (with few people
buying them new, they aren't common on the used market), then a couple of
weeks later found another 56K modem in the garbage. Both external. I
found a wacom table among a lot of Mac discard this past summer, though
no pen (I wasn't thinking, so I have no idea if the pen was missing before
the tablet was tossed, or I simply should have looked for it among the
junk). That pile also resulted in some SCSI cables, that might be useful
at some point. I found an LCD VGA monitor last year when the students
moved out, and another one this year that goes into sleep mode without
prompting so I assume it needs some work on the power supply. I found
a Radio Shack "video camera" that stores on an SD card in the garbage last
summer, not that interesting but the SD card in it was. I even found a
Sony shortwave radio, admittely with the boards hanging off the open case,
in a pile of interesting garbage a few years ago. Something common like
a monitor, many likely pass by who might make use of it, something more
exotic, it requires a certain type of person.

I don't even go digging, I will go out on certain days when there is
likelihood of interesting things (such as when the students move out in
the spring, and a lesser move out at the end of summer, and then a lot of
people move here on July 1st), and I find all kinds of interesting things
without digging in the actual garbage bags. I likely do miss things that
way, but I avoid the real garbage, and making a mess. I do find enough
interesting things without having to dig.

Michael




> On Oct 17, 8:34*am, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:
>>> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
>>> occasionally.
>>
>>> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
>>> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
>>> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>>
>>> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
>>> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
>>> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
>>> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
>>> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>>
>>> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
>>> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
>>> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
>>> it.....
>>
>>> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>>
>>> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
>>> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
>>> up in a dumpster otherwise..... * How much of this great stuff ended
>>> up in landfills?
>>
>> After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting
>> things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something
>> exotic.
>>
>> The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the
>> sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.
>>
>> * * *Michael
>

Sean Fahey

On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:

> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...8#ht_572wt_901

That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS.

Mike Maginnis

On 2011-10-17 22:15:03 +0000, Kevin Dady said:

> On Oct 17, 9:05*am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
>> occasionally.
>>
>> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
>> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
>> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>>
>> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
>> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
>> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
>> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
>> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>>
>> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
>> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
>> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
>> it.....
>>
>> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>>
>> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
>> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
>> up in a dumpster otherwise..... * How much of this great stuff ended
>> up in landfills?
>>
>> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
>> steal
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> heh the only luck I have had at a yardsale (outside of my dec386 lappy
> but in apple terms) was someone had a bag of old mouses, in there was
> 1 ADB mouse, I asked how much the bag was and got 40$ and that was
> including 2 dumpy looking CRT VGA monitors and a broken compaq pentium
> chunk of ... with no exceptions, all or nothing, I told her good
> luck and left.

I've never had any luck at yard sales, and it's been a few years since
any Apple II-related stuff showed up at the local thrift stores. Ten
years ago, that wasn't the case -- I could walk out of any charity
store around here with an armload of A2 gear for ~ US $20. In fact, I
got my first Transwarp in a GS from one of those places. The whole
machine cost me $15. (How's that card working these days, Ed? )

Those days are long gone though. Either people are recycling
everything "responsibly", as was suggested above, or it has become
common knowledge that you can actually make a few dollars on this stuff
through eBay instead of just donating it. And, at least one thrift
chain automatically trashes anything that won't run at least Windows 98
or Mac OS 9.

--
- Mike

Podcast: http://open-apple.net
Scans: http://apple2scans.net
Blog: http://6502lane.net

IUnknown

On Oct 18, 8:02*am, Sean Fahey <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
> > This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> > steal
>
> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-...Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS.

Yes, I noticed that a few of the keys map 'strangely'

Sean Fahey

On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:24:37 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:

> > That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS.
>
> Yes, I noticed that a few of the keys map 'strangely'

IMO, aside the from the original IIGS keyboard, the next best option is the Extended Keyboard I or II (kinda large but with excellent tactile feedback). In a pinch I'll make do with a standard Keyboard II but I don't care for it's unusual layout.