Egan Ford

Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
getting posts from everywhere but Google.

Anyone else seeing this?

Thanks.

David Schmidt

On 2/6/2012 11:51 AM, Egan Ford wrote:
> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?

Wow, google groups has been busy, I see. I was missing a lot from
Eternal September.

Egan Ford

David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On 2/6/2012 11:51 AM, Egan Ford wrote:
>> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
>> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
>> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
>> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Wow, google groups has been busy, I see. I was missing a lot from Eternal September.

Looks like it not just me.

Linards Ticmanis

On 02/06/2012 05:51 PM, Egan Ford wrote:
> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?

Yes indeed. It's all missing from news.arcor.de. So I guess Google is
the culprit, as usual.

Dear Google Groups users: that means currently us who don't usually go
there (except for search purposes) can't read anything you're posting.
Please consider posting from somewhere else.

Although I guess I'm behind the times in still thinking of Google as
nothing more than a slightly glorified search engine...

--
Linards Ticmanis

Egan Ford

On 2012-02-06 10:31:50 -0700, Linards Ticmanis said:

> On 02/06/2012 05:51 PM, Egan Ford wrote:
>> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
>> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
>> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
>> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Yes indeed. It's all missing from news.arcor.de. So I guess Google is
> the culprit, as usual.
>
> Dear Google Groups users: that means currently us who don't usually go
> there (except for search purposes) can't read anything you're posting.
> Please consider posting from somewhere else.
>
> Although I guess I'm behind the times in still thinking of Google as
> nothing more than a slightly glorified search engine...

I know that this has been discussed before, perhaps its time to discuss again.

What are the alternatives? What are others using? If using an NNTP
server, what client on what OS? If web-based, URL. Thanks.

My list:

Web:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/topics


NNTP Server:

news.xmission.com


NNTP Client/Browser:

nn (OS/X and UNIX), used to love in the '80s/'90s, now prefer GUI
clients (better fonts for readability)

Xnttp (OS/X), Ok, not actively developed. Minor annoyances.

Unison (OS/X), nice, but for ~$30 US you'd think they would have a
spell checker. Actively developed.

NewsTap (iOS iPad and iPhone), Not bad, only iOS option. Actively developed.

Michael J. Mahon

Egan Ford <datajerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-02-06 10:31:50 -0700, Linards Ticmanis said:
>
>> On 02/06/2012 05:51 PM, Egan Ford wrote:
>>> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
>>> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
>>> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
>>> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>>>>> Anyone else seeing this?
>>> Yes indeed. It's all missing from news.arcor.de. So I guess Google is
>> the culprit, as usual.
>>> Dear Google Groups users: that means currently us who don't usually go
>> there (except for search purposes) can't read anything you're posting.
>> Please consider posting from somewhere else.
>>> Although I guess I'm behind the times in still thinking of Google as
>> nothing more than a slightly glorified search engine...
>
> I know that this has been discussed before, perhaps its time to discuss again.
>
> What are the alternatives? What are others using? If using an NNTP
> server, what client on what OS? If web-based, URL. Thanks.
>
> My list:
>
> Web:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/topics
>
>
> NNTP Server:
>
> news.xmission.com
>
>
> NNTP Client/Browser:
>
> nn (OS/X and UNIX), used to love in the '80s/'90s, now prefer GUI clients
> (better fonts for readability)
>
> Xnttp (OS/X), Ok, not actively developed. Minor annoyances.
>
> Unison (OS/X), nice, but for ~$30 US you'd think they would have a spell
> checker. Actively developed.
>
> NewsTap (iOS iPad and iPhone), Not bad, only iOS option. Actively developed.

Server: Giganews

Windows client: Thunderbird

iOS client: Newstap

All works well as far as I can tell...

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

Vladimir Ivanov

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Egan Ford wrote:

> What are others using? If using an NNTP server, what client on what OS?

server: news.individual.net

client: alpine (email/news)

Charlie

On 2/6/2012 12:59 PM, Egan Ford wrote:
> On 2012-02-06 10:31:50 -0700, Linards Ticmanis said:
>
>> On 02/06/2012 05:51 PM, Egan Ford wrote:
>>> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
>>> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
>>> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
>>> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>>>
>>> Anyone else seeing this?
>>
>> Yes indeed. It's all missing from news.arcor.de. So I guess Google is
>> the culprit, as usual.
>>
>> Dear Google Groups users: that means currently us who don't usually go
>> there (except for search purposes) can't read anything you're posting.
>> Please consider posting from somewhere else.
>>
>> Although I guess I'm behind the times in still thinking of Google as
>> nothing more than a slightly glorified search engine...
>
> I know that this has been discussed before, perhaps its time to discuss
> again.
>
> What are the alternatives? What are others using? If using an NNTP
> server, what client on what OS? If web-based, URL. Thanks.
>
> My list:
>
> Web:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/topics
>
>
> NNTP Server:
>
> news.xmission.com
>
>
> NNTP Client/Browser:
>
> nn (OS/X and UNIX), used to love in the '80s/'90s, now prefer GUI
> clients (better fonts for readability)
>
> Xnttp (OS/X), Ok, not actively developed. Minor annoyances.
>
> Unison (OS/X), nice, but for ~$30 US you'd think they would have a spell
> checker. Actively developed.
>
> NewsTap (iOS iPad and iPhone), Not bad, only iOS option. Actively
> developed.
>

NNTP Server: news.eternal-september.org
client: Thunderbird
OS: Windows 7

I haven't gotten any posts from Google Groups since February 2.

Charlie

Linards Ticmanis

On 02/06/2012 06:59 PM, Egan Ford wrote:

> What are the alternatives? What are others using? If using an NNTP
> server, what client on what OS? If web-based, URL. Thanks.

I'm using news.arcor.de, since Arcor was my ISP about 10 years ago (when
Usenet was still very much alive) and they never bothered disabling my
news account. I prefer Thunderbird as a news reader. But I guess that
doesn't help anybody who has not been an Arcor customer...

--
Linards Ticmanis

D Finnigan

Egan Ford wrote:
> Usually when Google Usenet Groups has a problem it's that posts from
> outside of Google's Usenet service take a long time to appear. Now I
> am seeing the opposite. The news server that I use from my ISP is
> getting posts from everywhere but Google.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>

M. Viganu's "+1" post didn't show up outside of Google.

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