Toma Sharple

okay, here under an assumed name, passing on a question from my 'Dad
in Chicago'. He does not want to post himself, because he is
embarrassed.

what Dad is asking ...


"Way back, I read that the two Steves had taken a contract for someone
like Honeywell. Jobs told Woz that the payoff was $500, and Woz
happily took his $250 share.

"Then, almost a decade later, I read that Woz had written a book, and
described how he had started crying during a plane ride. He had read
that Jobs had lied, and the contract was really $5000, and had given
Woz only 5%. They had been friends, and equal partners, he had
thought.

"In the decades since then, I thought this was a given fact, that Jobs
had screwed his friend Woz. When fellow users would tell me about
Jobs's latest achievement or screwup, I'd respond in a lukewarm way.
I'd eventually explain that "Steven Jobs is not my favorite person".

"And last year, during all the public grieving, I kept quiet. After
all, the guy was dead.

"But, you know, I never could find out -- did the two Steve's ever
make up? Or did Jobs apologize? Or was the whole thing a
misunderstanding in the first place? But no one wrote about it.

"I know that Woz and Jobs did work together from time to time over the
decades. And I saw in the "Pirates of Silicon Valley" movie that Woz
didn't think that Jobs was perfect."


and my Dad is having me post a query here or there.

anybody recognize this story? can anybody shed light on this, please?
- toma

D Finnigan

Toma Sharple <sharpletoma@gmail.com> wrote:
> okay, here under an assumed name, passing on a question from my 'Dad
> in Chicago'. He does not want to post himself, because he is
> embarrassed.
>
> what Dad is asking ...
>
>
> "Way back, I read that the two Steves had taken a contract for someone
> like Honeywell. Jobs told Woz that the payoff was $500, and Woz
> happily took his $250 share.
>
> "Then, almost a decade later, I read that Woz had written a book, and
> described how he had started crying during a plane ride. He had read
> that Jobs had lied, and the contract was really $5000, and had given
> Woz only 5%. They had been friends, and equal partners, he had
> thought.
>
> "In the decades since then, I thought this was a given fact, that Jobs
> had screwed his friend Woz. When fellow users would tell me about
> Jobs's latest achievement or screwup, I'd respond in a lukewarm way.
> I'd eventually explain that "Steven Jobs is not my favorite person".
>
> "And last year, during all the public grieving, I kept quiet. After
> all, the guy was dead.
>
> "But, you know, I never could find out -- did the two Steve's ever
> make up? Or did Jobs apologize? Or was the whole thing a
> misunderstanding in the first place? But no one wrote about it.
>
> "I know that Woz and Jobs did work together from time to time over the
> decades. And I saw in the "Pirates of Silicon Valley" movie that Woz
> didn't think that Jobs was perfect."
>
>
> and my Dad is having me post a query here or there.
>
> anybody recognize this story? can anybody shed light on this, please?
> - toma

The company was Atari. Breakout.

Steve Nickolas

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Toma Sharple wrote:

> okay, here under an assumed name, passing on a question from my 'Dad
> in Chicago'. He does not want to post himself, because he is
> embarrassed.
>
> what Dad is asking ...
>
>
> "Way back, I read that the two Steves had taken a contract for someone
> like Honeywell. Jobs told Woz that the payoff was $500, and Woz
> happily took his $250 share.
>
> "Then, almost a decade later, I read that Woz had written a book, and
> described how he had started crying during a plane ride. He had read
> that Jobs had lied, and the contract was really $5000, and had given
> Woz only 5%. They had been friends, and equal partners, he had
> thought.

Atari. Breakout.

-uso.

Egan Ford

On Jan 20, 10:47*am, Toma Sharple <sharplet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> okay, here under an assumed name, passing on a question from my 'Dad
> in Chicago'. *He does not want to post himself, because he is
> embarrassed.
>
> what Dad is asking ...
>
> "Way back, I read that the two Steves had taken a contract for someone
> like Honeywell. *Jobs told Woz that the payoff was $500, and Woz
> happily took his $250 share.
>
> "Then, almost a decade later, I read that Woz had written a book, and
> described how he had started crying during a plane ride. *He had read
> that Jobs had lied, and the contract was really $5000, and had given
> Woz only 5%. *They had been friends, and equal partners, he had
> thought.
>
> "In the decades since then, I thought this was a given fact, that Jobs
> had screwed his friend Woz. When fellow users would tell me about
> Jobs's latest achievement or screwup, I'd respond in a lukewarm way.
> I'd eventually explain that "Steven Jobs is not my favorite person".
>
> "And last year, during all the public grieving, I kept quiet. *After
> all, the guy was dead.
>
> "But, you know, I never could find out -- did the two Steve's ever
> make up? Or did Jobs apologize? Or was the whole thing a
> misunderstanding in the first place? *But no one wrote about it.
>
> "I know that Woz and Jobs did work together from time to time over the
> decades. *And I saw in the "Pirates of Silicon Valley" movie that Woz
> didn't think that Jobs was perfect."
>
> and my Dad is having me post a query here or there.
>
> anybody recognize this story? *can anybody shed light on this, please?
> - toma

http://classicgaming.gamespy.com/Vie....Detail&id=395

BLuRry

Woz is a really nice guy. Though it sucks that Jobs screwed him out of some coin, it was because of Breakout that Woz decided to add the I/O and graphics features to the Apple // that made it such a huge hit. In the end, I think karma prevailed.

Linards Ticmanis

On 01/20/2012 09:58 PM, BLuRry wrote:
> Woz is a really nice guy. Though it sucks that Jobs screwed him out of some coin, it was because of Breakout that Woz decided to add the I/O and graphics features to the Apple // that made it such a huge hit. In the end, I think karma prevailed.

And I personally find Wozniak's book, "iWoz", much more interesting than
the hyped Jobs biography.

--
Linards Ticmanis

limtc

Steve denied this in his biography.

There are often 2 sides of the story.

David Chiu

On 2/3/2012 3:29 AM, limtc wrote:
> Steve denied this in his biography.
>
> There are often 2 sides of the story.

Well, one Steve is a well known engineer. The other Steve is a well
known spin meister. Who would you ... believe?

limtc

On 2ÔÂ8ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç1ʱ29·Ö, David Chiu <n...@nowhere.org> wrote:
> On 2/3/2012 3:29 AM, limtc wrote:
> Well, one Steve is a well known engineer. The other Steve is a well
> known spin meister. Who would you ... believe?

Both. I think both are honest man (especially one is near his death).

David Chiu

On 2/8/2012 8:43 PM, limtc wrote:
> On 2ÔÂ8ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç1ʱ29·Ö, David Chiu<n...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>> On 2/3/2012 3:29 AM, limtc wrote:
>> Well, one Steve is a well known engineer. The other Steve is a well
>> known spin meister. Who would you ... believe?
>
> Both. I think both are honest man (especially one is near his death).

Some say that a man near his death don't lie. I disagree; famous men
cares a great deal about the legacy they left behind, enough to brush
over deeds they much rather the world not know or remember.