kynrek

have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
try to load prodos audio client and it fails.

any suggestions?

David Schmidt

On 11/19/2011 3:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
> have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
> audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
> cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
> transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
> shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
> and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
> try to load prodos audio client and it fails.

ProDOS is hanging, waiting for some device to come active. What cards
do you have in the II+? Anything other than the Disk II and language
card? If so, remove them.

kynrek

On Nov 20, 8:51*am, David Schmidt <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 3:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
>
> > have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
> > audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
> > cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
> > transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
> > shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
> > and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
> > try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
>
> ProDOS is hanging, waiting for some device to come active. *What cards
> do you have in the II+? *Anything other than the Disk II and language
> card? *If so, remove them.

Already did does it matter which slot the disk controller is in? Do
I need to have a disk in?

David Schmidt

On Nov 20, 11:38*am, kynrek <kyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 8:51*am, David Schmidt <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/19/2011 3:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
>
> > > have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
> > > audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
> > > cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
> > > transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
> > > shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
> > > and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
> > > try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
>
> > ProDOS is hanging, waiting for some device to come active. *What cards
> > do you have in the II+? *Anything other than the Disk II and language
> > card? *If so, remove them.
>
> Already did does it matter which slot the disk controller is in? Do
> I need to have a disk in?

To keep it easy on yourself, leave the Disk II controller in slot 6.
During a boot-over-wire scenario, you do not need a disk to be
inserted.

BluPhoenyx

On 11/19/2011 02:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
> have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
> audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
> cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
> transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
> shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
> and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
> try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
>
> any suggestions?

Try an earlier version of ProDOS. I don't recall the version offhand but
at least one requires a 65c02.

Cheers,
Mike T

David Empson

BluPhoenyx <bluphoenyx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/19/2011 02:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
> > have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
> > audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
> > cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
> > transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
> > shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
> > and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
> > try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
> >
> > any suggestions?
>
> Try an earlier version of ProDOS. I don't recall the version offhand but
> at least one requires a 65c02.

ProDOS-8 2.0 and later require a 65C02.

1.3 also had a bug which meant it was only safe to use on a 65C02
(accidentally used a 65C02 instruction in the Disk ][ driver, if I
remember right). That was fixed in 1.4.

ProDOS-8 1.9 is the last version which runs on a 6502. That version had
a new program selector which only works on a IIe or later (it uses
80-column mode), but it reverts to the old "enter path and filename" one
on a II+. It should work fine.

Any version of ProDOS after 1.0.x requires a 64K Apple II, so perhaps
that II+ has a faulty language card? (That would normally produce a
"Relocation/Configuration Error" message, as would most RAM faults in
the main 48K area.)

--
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

David Schmidt

On 11/21/2011 6:30 AM, David Empson wrote:
> BluPhoenyx<bluphoenyx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/19/2011 02:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
>>> have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
>>> audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
>>> cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
>>> transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
>>> shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
>>> and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
>>> try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
>>>
>>> any suggestions?
>>
>> Try an earlier version of ProDOS. I don't recall the version offhand but
>> at least one requires a 65c02.
>
> ProDOS-8 2.0 and later require a 65C02.
>
> 1.3 also had a bug which meant it was only safe to use on a 65C02
> (accidentally used a 65C02 instruction in the Disk ][ driver, if I
> remember right). That was fixed in 1.4.
>
> ProDOS-8 1.9 is the last version which runs on a 6502. That version had
> a new program selector which only works on a IIe or later (it uses
> 80-column mode), but it reverts to the old "enter path and filename" one
> on a II+. It should work fine.
>
> Any version of ProDOS after 1.0.x requires a 64K Apple II, so perhaps
> that II+ has a faulty language card? (That would normally produce a
> "Relocation/Configuration Error" message, as would most RAM faults in
> the main 48K area.)

ADTPro does its bootstrapping with ProDOS 1.9, so the version isn't
likely the problem.

BluPhoenyx

On 11/21/2011 05:30 AM, David Empson wrote:
> BluPhoenyx<bluphoenyx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/19/2011 02:55 PM, kynrek wrote:
>>> have an apple II+ with 64K and I am trying to use ADTPro 1.19 with an
>>> audio cable. I have tried a PC and a macbook, and 2 different audio
>>> cables and multiple volume levels. It pretty much always succeeds in
>>> transering the PRODOS info and beeps. I hit 2000g and enter and it
>>> shows PRODOS 8 v1.9 but there is no cursor available to type anything
>>> and it's frozen. I have to hit control reset to get a prompt then I
>>> try to load prodos audio client and it fails.
>>>
>>> any suggestions?
>>
>> Try an earlier version of ProDOS. I don't recall the version offhand but
>> at least one requires a 65c02.
>
> ProDOS-8 2.0 and later require a 65C02.
>
> 1.3 also had a bug which meant it was only safe to use on a 65C02
> (accidentally used a 65C02 instruction in the Disk ][ driver, if I
> remember right). That was fixed in 1.4.
>
> ProDOS-8 1.9 is the last version which runs on a 6502. That version had
> a new program selector which only works on a IIe or later (it uses
> 80-column mode), but it reverts to the old "enter path and filename" one
> on a II+. It should work fine.
>
> Any version of ProDOS after 1.0.x requires a 64K Apple II, so perhaps
> that II+ has a faulty language card? (That would normally produce a
> "Relocation/Configuration Error" message, as would most RAM faults in
> the main 48K area.)
>

Well, it was mostly a thought. Plus I expected it would get a response
from you as a helping hand

I suspect it might be flaky ram but it wouldn't hurt if they reseated
the card and chips. Just to be sure everything is snug.

Cheers,
Mike T