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Old 10-21-2011, 07:10 AM
KP
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Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".

Does anyone have this program?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:30 PM
David Schmidt
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On 10/21/2011 12:48 AM, KP wrote:
> Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
> title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".
>
> Does anyone have this program?


I don't see it in any of the usual places, but it looks like it came
with a hardcover book as well:

http://isbndb.com/d/book/kittens_kid..._software.html
http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=u8nQAAAACAAJ
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:50 PM
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On Oct 21, 9:53*am, David Schmidt <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On 10/21/2011 12:48 AM, KP wrote:
>
> > Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
> > title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".

>
> > Does anyone have this program?

>
> I don't see it in any of the usual places, but it looks like it came
> with a hardcover book as well:
>
> http://isbndb.com/d/book/kittens_kid...Frog_Apple_Sof...


The individual in question has apparently been using it in a classroom
context all these years but one out of what I'm assuming are two disks
recently failed, hence the inquiry.

I imagine those listings refer to the software rather than a hardcover
book.
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:50 PM
Antoine Vignau
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On 21 oct, 16:40, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 9:53*am, David Schmidt <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10/21/2011 12:48 AM, KP wrote:

>
> > > Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
> > > title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".

>
> > > Does anyone have this program?

>
> > I don't see it in any of the usual places, but it looks like it came
> > with a hardcover book as well:

>
> >http://isbndb.com/d/book/kittens_kid...software.htmlh.......

>
> The individual in question has apparently been using it in a classroom
> context all these years but one out of what I'm assuming are two disks
> recently failed, hence the inquiry.
>
> I imagine those listings refer to the software rather than a hardcover
> book.


IIRC I have it or I have the second version.
I'll check at home tonight,
antoine
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:50 PM
Michael J. Mahon
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Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> wrote:
> On 21 oct, 16:40, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 21, 9:53 am, David Schmidt <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/21/2011 12:48 AM, KP wrote:

>>
>>>> Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
>>>> title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".

>>
>>>> Does anyone have this program?

>>
>>> I don't see it in any of the usual places, but it looks like it came
>>> with a hardcover book as well:

>>
>>> http://isbndb.com/d/book/kittens_kid...software.htmlh......

>>
>> The individual in question has apparently been using it in a classroom
>> context all these years but one out of what I'm assuming are two disks
>> recently failed, hence the inquiry.
>>
>> I imagine those listings refer to the software rather than a hardcover
>> book.

>
> IIRC I have it or I have the second version.
> I'll check at home tonight,
> antoine


And don't rule out the good possibility that the "failed" disk can be
recovered and new, copyable ones created.

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:30 PM
Antoine Vignau
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On 21 oct, 06:48, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
> title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".
>
> Does anyone have this program?


Please find @ http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/ha...nsandkids1.zip
:
- the three cracked disks,
- a scan of the box,
- a scan of the disks,
- a scan of the cover of the manual.

Antoine
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:40 PM
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On Oct 21, 4:00*pm, Antoine Vignau <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
> On 21 oct, 06:48, KP <kjpm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone in my Apple user group is looking for an Apple II educational
> > title by "Hartley Courseware" called "Kids, Kittens and a Frog".

>
> > Does anyone have this program?

>
> Please find @http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/hartley_frogsdogskittensandkids1.zip
> :
> - the three cracked disks,
> - a scan of the box,
> - a scan of the disks,
> - a scan of the cover of the manual.
>
> Antoine


Antoine,

Thank you very much! It looks like this set is actually the sequel to
the title that the user in question was looking for.

The original title was "Kittens, Kids, and a Frog." If you look on
the back of the box for the Frogs/Dogs title, it says that Frogs/Dogs
"reinforce the work" in Kittens/Kids.

Do you have the Kittens/Kids title as well?
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Antoine Vignau
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You confirm what I thought, sorry about that, I think I don't own the
right title.

I've browsed my educ titles and found the following original Hartley
programs:
- 10-02 / Tim and the Cat and the Big Red Hat (one disk)
- 10-03 / Tim and the Cat and the Fish Dish (two disks)
- 10-04 / Tim and the Cat and Jen the Hen (two disks)
- 10-26 / (Frogs & Dogs 3) Rabbits, Robots and a Monkey 1 (five disks)

Any interest in it?

Antoine
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Antoine Vignau
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On 22 oct, 22:53, Antoine Vignau <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
> You confirm what I thought, sorry about that, I think I don't own the
> right title.
>
> I've browsed my educ titles and found the following original Hartley
> programs:
> - 10-02 / Tim and the Cat and the Big Red Hat (one disk)
> - 10-03 / Tim and the Cat and the Fish Dish (two disks)
> - 10-04 / Tim and the Cat and Jen the Hen (two disks)
> - 10-26 / (Frogs & Dogs 3) Rabbits, Robots and a Monkey 1 (five disks)
>
> Any interest in it?
>
> Antoine


OK OK, I've imaged and cracked them (the same protection: a change in
the final markers (D5AA96/DAAAEB/D5AAAD/DAAAEB) and a volume #1)

Available at http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/crack/ - all files prefixed
with HARTLEY_

Antoine
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:50 PM
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On Oct 22, 5:18*pm, Antoine Vignau <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
> On 22 oct, 22:53, Antoine Vignau <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
>
> > You confirm what I thought, sorry about that, I think I don't own the
> > right title.

>
> > I've browsed my educ titles and found the following original Hartley
> > programs:
> > - 10-02 / Tim and the Cat and the Big Red Hat (one disk)
> > - 10-03 / Tim and the Cat and the Fish Dish (two disks)
> > - 10-04 / Tim and the Cat and Jen the Hen (two disks)
> > - 10-26 / (Frogs & Dogs 3) Rabbits, Robots and a Monkey 1 (five disks)

>
> > Any interest in it?

>
> > Antoine

>
> OK OK, I've imaged and cracked them (the same protection: a change in
> the final markers (D5AA96/DAAAEB/D5AAAD/DAAAEB) and a volume #1)
>
> Available athttp://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/crack/- all files prefixed
> with HARTLEY_
>
> Antoine


Thank you. I'll pass these along to the user who was looking for the
Kittens title and hopefully these will be useful for her teaching.
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