Chris Hafner

About two weeks ago I posted here asking for help and guidance. As of
last night, thanks to the help and guidance that you guys provided, I
hooked up my null modem cable, ran ADT, bootstrapped my IIGS, and
began writing disk images. Thank you *very much* for helping get this
newbie started.

I have to say, bootstrapping and transferring disk images feels almost
magical. And it's amazing to be able to do something with my IIGS
other than writing BASIC programs.

Now that I'm up and running, do you guys have any recommendations for
what I can do to really savor the experience and take advantage of the
power of the IIGS? I have a ROM 1 machine with 512K of RAM, which is a
bit disappointing. So far I've been poking around System 4 a bit and
have played a few older Apple II games, in those cases where I could
figure out the commands. Next up for tonight will be messing around
with Claris Works GS and trying to get a few GS games to run, if they
will with my meager amount of RAM.

Thanks again for helping get me on my feet. So far jumping back into
Apple IIs has been even more rewarding than I expected.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner

D Finnigan

Chris Hafner wrote:
>
> Now that I'm up and running, do you guys have any recommendations for
> what I can do to really savor the experience and take advantage of the
> power of the IIGS?

A pretty cool game that makes good show of the GS (graphics & sound) is The
Immortal.
Unfortunately, you will need a RAM upgrade for your machine. It requires 1
MB of RAM.

In the mean time, Ancient Land of Ys is also pretty nifty, and will run with
512 kb of RAM.

--
]DF$
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
Macintosh computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/

Ewen

Chris,

> Now that I'm up and running, do you guys have any recommendations for
> what I can do to really savor the experience and take advantage of the
> power of the IIGS?

It depends how far you want to go. The IIgs can surf the net, do your
emails, handle Usenet and this group, download through FTP, to name but
a few things it can do over and above games.

To fully use the IIgs, you will need some bulk storage of some sort, and
these days that means an interface to use an SD card as hard disk
storage.

So look out for things like Marinetti, to get you online, a CFFA card
for storage, then ask here for further pointers as to where to get all
these things!

Cheers - Ewen

Alex Lee

There are plenty of IIGS game classics that require only 512k of RAM:

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/zany-golf

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/world-games

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/winter-games

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/skate-or-die

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/alien-mind

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/arkanoid

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/arkanoid-ii

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/crystal-quest

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/thexder

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/silpheed

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/xenocide

Anyways...keep looking through the site and you'll find more.

- Alex

Chris Hafner

Thanks, everybody! Ewen, I'm already mulling over a CF mass storage
option, and I'll definitely dig into those games Alex. I had my
daughter playing Math Blaster Plus GS and Oregon Trail last night, and
that was pretty neat for all involved.

One quick question - in playing older Apple II games, I'm finding some
difficulty in providing keyboard inputs. Some of it could be just my
infamiliarity with the control schemes in those games, but when
playing Spy Hunter, for instance, after pressing every single button
on the keyboard, I can't seem to make the car move. In Pirates!, the
cursor moves to the bottom of every menu (as if somebody is holding
the down arrow) and I can't even navigate the menus unless I want the
last option in each menu.

Any ideas or hints on what I could be doing wrong? I know the older
Apple II keyboards differ, and so I don't really expect the IIGS arrow
keys to work, and I've tried keeping Caps Lock on to simulate all-caps
text input. But after trying literally every key on the keyboard, it's
still not working and I'm stumped.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner

Cedric Peltier

Le 14/10/2011 18:38, Chris Hafner a écrit :
> Thanks, everybody! Ewen, I'm already mulling over a CF mass storage
> option, and I'll definitely dig into those games Alex. I had my
> daughter playing Math Blaster Plus GS and Oregon Trail last night, and
> that was pretty neat for all involved.
>
> One quick question - in playing older Apple II games, I'm finding some
> difficulty in providing keyboard inputs. Some of it could be just my
> infamiliarity with the control schemes in those games, but when
> playing Spy Hunter, for instance, after pressing every single button
> on the keyboard, I can't seem to make the car move. In Pirates!, the
> cursor moves to the bottom of every menu (as if somebody is holding
> the down arrow) and I can't even navigate the menus unless I want the
> last option in each menu.
>
> Any ideas or hints on what I could be doing wrong? I know the older
> Apple II keyboards differ, and so I don't really expect the IIGS arrow
> keys to work, and I've tried keeping Caps Lock on to simulate all-caps
> text input. But after trying literally every key on the keyboard, it's
> still not working and I'm stumped.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Hafner

Hello,

Maybe these games are waiting input from a joystick only ?

Cedric

Alex Lee

On 2011-10-14 18:53:48 +0100, Cedric Peltier said:

> Le 14/10/2011 18:38, Chris Hafner a écrit :
>> Thanks, everybody! Ewen, I'm already mulling over a CF mass storage
>> option, and I'll definitely dig into those games Alex. I had my
>> daughter playing Math Blaster Plus GS and Oregon Trail last night, and
>> that was pretty neat for all involved.
>>
>> One quick question - in playing older Apple II games, I'm finding some
>> difficulty in providing keyboard inputs. Some of it could be just my
>> infamiliarity with the control schemes in those games, but when
>> playing Spy Hunter, for instance, after pressing every single button
>> on the keyboard, I can't seem to make the car move. In Pirates!, the
>> cursor moves to the bottom of every menu (as if somebody is holding
>> the down arrow) and I can't even navigate the menus unless I want the
>> last option in each menu.
>>
>> Any ideas or hints on what I could be doing wrong? I know the older
>> Apple II keyboards differ, and so I don't really expect the IIGS arrow
>> keys to work, and I've tried keeping Caps Lock on to simulate all-caps
>> text input. But after trying literally every key on the keyboard, it's
>> still not working and I'm stumped.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris Hafner
>
> Hello,
>
> Maybe these games are waiting input from a joystick only ?
>
> Cedric

That'd be it. A LOT of the 8-bit games REQUIRE a joystick. IIGS games
tend to offer control with both.

- Alex

Mr Nukem

I just got my GS up and running over the past 90 days. I upgraded the memory card to 512K which was a mistake as most all the GS based games and apps really do require 1 MB so I would highly recommend upgrading to 1 MB as your next upgrade.

kynrek

On Oct 13, 12:58*pm, Chris Hafner <hafner.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> About two weeks ago I posted here asking for help and guidance. As of
> last night, thanks to the help and guidance that you guys provided, I
> hooked up my null modem cable, ran ADT, bootstrapped my IIGS, and
> began writing disk images. Thank you *very much* for helping get this
> newbie started.
>
> I have to say, bootstrapping and transferring disk images feels almost
> magical. And it's amazing to be able to do something with my IIGS
> other than writing BASIC programs.
>
> Now that I'm up and running, do you guys have any recommendations for
> what I can do to really savor the experience and take advantage of the
> power of the IIGS? I have a ROM 1 machine with 512K of RAM, which is a
> bit disappointing. So far I've been poking around System 4 a bit and
> have played a few older Apple II games, in those cases where I could
> figure out the commands. Next up for tonight will be messing around
> with Claris Works GS and trying to get a few GS games to run, if they
> will with my meager amount of RAM.
>
> Thanks again for helping get me on my feet. So far jumping back into
> Apple IIs has been even more rewarding than I expected.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Hafner

I am a new Apple IIGS user as well, I got lucky I guess because the
sytem I picked up has 1MB of memory. I ordered the necessary parts to
do the ADT transfering and I can't wait! I ran into the same issue
with Spyhunter and some other games as well. Does oregon trail run in
gs/os or does it just boot straight off the disk?

D Finnigan

kynrek wrote:
> Does oregon trail run in
> gs/os or does it just boot straight off the disk?
>

The old Oregon trail, as with most games on 5.25" disks, will boot straight
off the disk.