kynrek

Which port does the apple iigs use for a joystick? What is the
connector called? DB-9?

Thanks,

Kynrek

Kevin Dady

On Oct 27, 10:50*pm, kynrek <kyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which port does the apple iigs use for a joystick? What is the
> connector called? DB-9?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kynrek

Its really a DE-9F connector (on the computer, on the joystick it
would be DE-9M)

D = connector type
E = shell size
9 = connections
F = Female (could be S for socket but that is confusing as you could
have a male socket I guess?)

It could be called a DB-9 but that is not its real name, that came
about mostly due to serial ports, since they originally used a DB-25
connector, then later on they switched to a DE-9 everyone just started
calling them DB-9, but since the second letter is the physical size of
the plug, That is not correct, and can be an issue if your shopping
for one.

kynrek

On Oct 28, 12:28*am, Kevin Dady <ke...@hackaday.com> wrote:
> On Oct 27, 10:50*pm, kynrek <kyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Which port does the apple iigs use for a joystick? What is the
> > connector called? DB-9?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Kynrek
>
> Its really a DE-9F connector (on the computer, on the joystick it
> would be DE-9M)
>
> D = connector type
> E = shell size
> 9 = connections
> F = Female (could be S for socket but that is confusing as you could
> have a male socket I guess?)
>
> It could be called a DB-9 but that is not its real name, that came
> about mostly due to serial ports, since they originally used a DB-25
> connector, then later on they switched to a DE-9 everyone just started
> calling them DB-9, but since the second letter is the physical size of
> the plug, That is not correct, and can be an issue if your shopping
> for one.

So should I be searching db-9 joystick on ebay? Thanks,

David Schmidt

On 10/28/2011 10:50 AM, kynrek wrote:
> So should I be searching db-9 joystick on ebay? Thanks,

You should be searching for an Apple II joystick on eBay. The DE-9 vs.
DB-9 was an interesting sideline, but not relevant to what you really
need to know. As a matter of fact, older 16-pin DIP connected joysticks
will work fine as well. But Atari/Commodore joysticks also had DE-9
ends on them - and they will absolutely not work without some kind of
adaptation, and still aren't really what you're looking for.

Watch for Apple II joystick auctions. That's what will work in your GS.

Rockin' Kat

On 10/28/11 7:50 AM, kynrek wrote:
> On Oct 28, 12:28 am, Kevin Dady<ke...@hackaday.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 27, 10:50 pm, kynrek<kyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Which port does the apple iigs use for a joystick? What is the
>>> connector called? DB-9?
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>> Kynrek
>>
>> Its really a DE-9F connector (on the computer, on the joystick it
>> would be DE-9M)
>>
>> D = connector type
>> E = shell size
>> 9 = connections
>> F = Female (could be S for socket but that is confusing as you could
>> have a male socket I guess?)
>>
>> It could be called a DB-9 but that is not its real name, that came
>> about mostly due to serial ports, since they originally used a DB-25
>> connector, then later on they switched to a DE-9 everyone just started
>> calling them DB-9, but since the second letter is the physical size of
>> the plug, That is not correct, and can be an issue if your shopping
>> for one.
>
> So should I be searching db-9 joystick on ebay? Thanks,

you're looking for an Apple II joystick... In addition to ebay, you
could also post that you're looking for an Apple II joystick in
comp.sys.apple2.marketplace and see what you drum up first.

The real question is what kind of joystick you actually want to use to
play. There were a lot of joysticks made for the Apple II. My favorite
are the ones made by CH Products like these ones:
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/1...6951797_tp.jpg

I like the smaller sticks that can fit in your hand.

-Matt

Kevin Dady

On Oct 29, 1:08*am, Rockin' Kat <rockin...@thecowsaysmoo.org> wrote:
> On 10/28/11 7:50 AM, kynrek wrote:
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> > On Oct 28, 12:28 am, Kevin Dady<ke...@hackaday.com> *wrote:
> >> On Oct 27, 10:50 pm, kynrek<kyn...@gmail.com> *wrote:
>
> >>> Which port does the apple iigs use for a joystick? What is the
> >>> connector called? DB-9?
>
> >>> Thanks,
>
> >>> Kynrek
>
> >> Its really a DE-9F connector (on the computer, on the joystick it
> >> would be DE-9M)
>
> >> D = connector type
> >> E = shell size
> >> 9 = connections
> >> F = Female (could be S for socket but that is confusing as you could
> >> have a male socket I guess?)
>
> >> It could be called a DB-9 but that is not its real name, that came
> >> about mostly due to serial ports, since they originally used a DB-25
> >> connector, then later on they switched to a DE-9 everyone just started
> >> calling them DB-9, but since the second letter is the physical size of
> >> the plug, That is not correct, and can be an issue if your shopping
> >> for one.
>
> > So should I be searching db-9 joystick on ebay? Thanks,
>
> you're looking for an Apple II joystick... In addition to ebay, you
> could also post that you're looking for an Apple II joystick in
> comp.sys.apple2.marketplace and see what you drum up first.
>
> The real question is what kind of joystick you actually want to use to
> play. There were a lot of joysticks made for the Apple II. My favorite
> are the ones made by CH Products like these ones:http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/1...6951797_tp.jpg
>
> I like the smaller sticks that can fit in your hand.
>
> -Matt

yes those style (which are the more typical) are much easier to play a
wider array of games with (from arcade to sim) than a big floppy
flightstick IMO, and on older non mouse programs provide a much more
accurate input

Rockin' Kat

On 10/28/11 11:22 PM, Kevin Dady wrote:
> On Oct 29, 1:08 am, Rockin' Kat<rockin...@thecowsaysmoo.org> wrote:
>> you're looking for an Apple II joystick... In addition to ebay, you
>> could also post that you're looking for an Apple II joystick in
>> comp.sys.apple2.marketplace and see what you drum up first.
>>
>> The real question is what kind of joystick you actually want to use to
>> play. There were a lot of joysticks made for the Apple II. My favorite
>> are the ones made by CH Products like these ones:http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/1...6951797_tp.jpg
>>
>> I like the smaller sticks that can fit in your hand.
>>
>> -Matt
>
> yes those style (which are the more typical) are much easier to play a
> wider array of games with (from arcade to sim) than a big floppy
> flightstick IMO, and on older non mouse programs provide a much more
> accurate input

The first joystick I ever got for Apple II was a Gravis flight stick
just like this one, though not so dirty.
http://www.billandchristina.com/vgam...3/DSC01897.JPG

I bought it because it was chap at a Goodwill store I was browsing and
it was the same joystick my friend had on his Apple IIgs back in the
early 90s. It's a pretty nice joystick with variable tension set by a
large wheel in the base of the joystick As well as button 1-2 switches
for each of the three buttons on it. Ultimately though, I find there are
a lot of games that just don't really lend themselves to this kind of
stick which is why I usually find myself coming back to my CH sticks.

-Matt

kynrek

Thanks everyone