Oliver Schmidt

Hi,

I understand that Apple GEOS came (too) late and that it didn't come
with the binary compatibility with CBM GEOS programs people had hoped
for. Anyhow there are sooo many CBM GEOS programs that I can't believe
that not at least a few are ported to Apple GEOS - especially as such
a port seems relatively easy.

Nevertheless I'm absolutely unable to find any Apple GEOS stuff apart
from the original set of system disks. Can anybody provide me with
hints/links/pointers and/or upload stuff to Asimov?

So moving from existing programs to new ones: The only GEOS
development doc I found that contains Apple GEOS specific infos is
'The Hitchhikers Guide to GEOS'. While this is certainly very helpful
there are quite some areas not covered at all. Does anybody know about
other GEOS development docs containing information about Apple GEOS?

And finally: Was there ever something like geoProgrammer released for
Apple GEOS? Or any other development tool? Or is the lack of this
already the reason for the lack of 3rd party Apple GEOS programs?

Many thanks in advance,
Oliver

Peltier Cedric

Le 09/12/2011 10:05, Oliver Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I understand that Apple GEOS came (too) late and that it didn't come
> with the binary compatibility with CBM GEOS programs people had hoped
> for. Anyhow there are sooo many CBM GEOS programs that I can't believe
> that not at least a few are ported to Apple GEOS - especially as such
> a port seems relatively easy.
>
> Nevertheless I'm absolutely unable to find any Apple GEOS stuff apart
> from the original set of system disks. Can anybody provide me with
> hints/links/pointers and/or upload stuff to Asimov?
>
> So moving from existing programs to new ones: The only GEOS
> development doc I found that contains Apple GEOS specific infos is
> 'The Hitchhikers Guide to GEOS'. While this is certainly very helpful
> there are quite some areas not covered at all. Does anybody know about
> other GEOS development docs containing information about Apple GEOS?
>
> And finally: Was there ever something like geoProgrammer released for
> Apple GEOS? Or any other development tool? Or is the lack of this
> already the reason for the lack of 3rd party Apple GEOS programs?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Oliver

Hi,
I'm interested too, I hope such information is available somewhere...
Cedric.

magnusfalkirk

On Dec 9, 3:05*am, Oliver Schmidt <ol...@web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I understand that Apple GEOS came (too) late and that it didn't come
> with the binary compatibility with CBM GEOS programs people had hoped
> for. Anyhow there are sooo many CBM GEOS programs that I can't believe
> that not at least a few are ported to Apple GEOS - especially as such
> a port seems relatively easy.
>
> Nevertheless I'm absolutely unable to find any Apple GEOS stuff apart
> from the original set of system disks. Can anybody provide me with
> hints/links/pointers and/or upload stuff to Asimov?
>
> So moving from existing programs to new ones: The only GEOS
> development doc I found that contains Apple GEOS specific infos is
> 'The Hitchhikers Guide to GEOS'. While this is certainly very helpful
> there are quite some areas not covered at all. Does anybody know about
> other GEOS development docs containing information about Apple GEOS?
>
> And finally: Was there ever something like geoProgrammer released for
> Apple GEOS? Or any other development tool? Or is the lack of this
> already the reason for the lack of 3rd party Apple GEOS programs?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Oliver

The only other program that I know of, and have copies of disk images
of, is GeoPublish which was the GEOS answer to Publish It!. If you'd
like a copy of it let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. I've seen
several sites with info, and programs, for the Commodore 64/128
version of GEOS. In fact someone did an update to Commodore GEOS that
they called Wheels, but I can't find it anywhere.

Dean

bill.martens@gmail.com

On Dec 10, 4:49*am, magnusfalkirk <dean.pha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 3:05*am, Oliver Schmidt <ol...@web.de> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I understand that Apple GEOS came (too) late and that it didn't come
> > with the binary compatibility with CBM GEOS programs people had hoped
> > for. Anyhow there are sooo many CBM GEOS programs that I can't believe
> > that not at least a few are ported to Apple GEOS - especially as such
> > a port seems relatively easy.
>
> > Nevertheless I'm absolutely unable to find any Apple GEOS stuff apart
> > from the original set of system disks. Can anybody provide me with
> > hints/links/pointers and/or upload stuff to Asimov?
>
> > So moving from existing programs to new ones: The only GEOS
> > development doc I found that contains Apple GEOS specific infos is
> > 'The Hitchhikers Guide to GEOS'. While this is certainly very helpful
> > there are quite some areas not covered at all. Does anybody know about
> > other GEOS development docs containing information about Apple GEOS?
>
> > And finally: Was there ever something like geoProgrammer released for
> > Apple GEOS? Or any other development tool? Or is the lack of this
> > already the reason for the lack of 3rd party Apple GEOS programs?
>
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Oliver
>
> The only other program that I know of, and have copies of disk images
> of, is GeoPublish which was the GEOS answer to Publish It!. If you'd
> like a copy of it let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. I've seen
> several sites with info, and programs, for the Commodore 64/128
> version of GEOS. In fact someone did an update to Commodore GEOS that
> they called Wheels, but I can't find it anywhere.
>
> Dean

I also am not aware of any Apple II tools for GEOS. When I asked for
permission to reproduce the manuals for the program in 2002, Breadbox
Computer did not mention anything about tools for the Apple ][. I
know that there are things for the C-64 where it has a much larger
following, but for the Apple ][, I believer there is just the base
packages - Write, Calc, Publish.

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Antoine Vignau

Hi Oliver,
I've uploaded the GEOS disks I have @ http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/geos/
I once had the original package which I have sold. To be honest, I had
never opened it!
I cannot tell about docs or other software solutions.

Antoine

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GEOS: Brought to you by:
_ _ _ _

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Semi-Complete Documentation for the following aspects of GEOS:

The Brigadier and Track Master
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

GEOS is for the Apple //e, //c and //gs and the Laser 128.

Chapter 1
~~~~~~~~~

Now that you have downloaded, pirated, or otherwise illegally gotten
ahold of
this fine program, you may wish to make backup copies for yourself (or
a
friend).

Program requirements:

Enhanced //e (//c) with 128k and double hi-res with at least two
drives and
although a mouse is not required it is strongly recommended.

Along with the program and the docs that came with the original of the
program
came a IQR interupt card which if you do not have a mouse re-routes
the signals
that were suppose to be going to the mouse to the joystick or the
keyboard.
This is not required, but there will be schemes for anyone wishing to
build one
out of 15 bux of (good ole) Radio Shack parts.

Boot the boot disk after it says 'OK' in a box press 'return' to
continue. If
you wish to install the boot on a hard drive hit 'h' a few times right
after you
press return and follow the instructions there. If not it will
automatically
load then. It will cycle thru the drives to find the on-line volumes
and then
the desktop will appear. Once this happens and you get a little
arrow, use the
U,i,o,j,k,l,n,m',' to move the arrows. You must hold down the open
apple key at
the same time. Insert the Drivers disk into the second drive and hit
closed
apple - a,b,c, or d to select which letter represents the drivers
disk. Once is
done loading the catalog track there will appear 6 icons of drivers
for
printers, etc... Move the arrow to the OPTIONS and use the 'k' to
click that
box, a menu will appear and you can move the arrow down to the INPUT
DEVICE and
select the device you wish to use.

Once this has been done things get much easier. Repeat the procedure,
but now
for the printer, interface, Clock, aux drivers. Then after you have
that done.
In order for GEOS to load your configuration up when ever you boot the
program,
you must have the drivers that you selected on the boot disk. You
will need to
copy those driver files to the boot disk. Refer to Copy Files.

SYSTEM disk
~~~~~~~~~~~

When GEOS is booted it looks for the following things: Drivers on the
boot disk
or the SYSTEM disk or directory. If you have installed GEOS on your
hard drive,
you will need to create a folder or (directory) named SYSTEM for
GEOS. Select
the drive you wish to have the SYSTEM folder by moving the pointer
over the disk
icons and clicking the chosen one. Click the FOLDER menu or press
closed apple
- U and you will be prompted for a name. In upper case type SYSTEM
and press
return. Once you have done this, you may wish to copy the following
files into
it:

Desktop, drivers (your selected ones) merge, Geopaint etc. This will
be your
work or SYSTEM folder where GEOS will go to upon booting. Once you
have done
this you will be all set up to run the programs and begin your using
of GEOS and
the other utilities. Refer to Copy Files later in the file.

VIEWing modes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Go to the view menu or press closed apple G and click the following
commands

:

by size (apple S) Sorts items in dir by size, largest item first
by type (apple T) Groups items by file type
by date (apple Y) Sorts item by date of last modification
by name (apple N) Sorts items alphabetically

Copying files
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Select source disk by clicking icon or hitting closed apple a,b,c, or
d. Then
click file icon once and then a second later again. Drag the ghost
icon
(trasparent) down to the bottom of the screen and click again. It
will do a few
disk accesses and then the icon will re-appear down at the bottom.
After you
have done this for all the files you wish to copy on that page or
until the
thing is full select the destination disk and click the icon on the
bottom of
the screen and drag it up to the work space and click again. It will
copy the
file. Repeat

process for other files.

Group Icons:

if you wish to copy more than one icon onto a different disk select
the iconsby
hitting closed apple and then the numbers 1-6 which rep the icons on
the work
space. After you have highlighted all the files you wish to by copied
or dump

ed or whatever click any of the highlighted icons and then a group
ghost icon
will appear. This icon reps all the icons (or files) you have
selected.

Quick referances
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

geos

geos info: displays copyrights (ha!) and authors of geos (who
cares)
desktop info: displays copyrights
alarm clock: a desk accessory for setting the time.
calculator: quick calculations
note pad: creating memos
photo manager: managing photo albums
text manager: managing text albums

NOTE: the geos menu displays the first eight accessories in SYSTEM
folder

appls
gain access to the first eight applications in the current system
folder file
open (apple Z) loads and executes selected file(s) on desktop
duplicate (H) creates a dup copy of the selected file or folder
rename (M) renames the selected files or folders
delete (X) deletes the selected file(s) or folder(s)
info (Q) displays info about the selected file(s)
print (P) prints the selected file

folder

create (U) creates a new folder in the current folder
goto (/) opens a foldre in any disk drive after you enter its name
browse(\) displays a list of folders which yyou can open in the
current
open disk

view

by icon (G) displays files in icon mode
by size (S) by size of file
by type (T) file type (SYS, TXT..)
by date (Y) last date modified
by name (N) alphabetically

disk

open (O) opens disk in current disk drive and displays files on work
space
close (J) closes current disk
rename (K) renames currently open disk
copy (L) copies contents of one disk to another
verify (V) checks the current open disk for errors
erase (E) erase the contents of the open disk without formatting
format (F) formats disk in any drive
BOOT reboots from the current drive

options

select printer: selects printer
select interface: printer interface
select input driver: (I) mouse, joystick, etc...
select clock: clock
select aux driver: (memory expansion device for ramdrives)
RESET: (R) re-reads all the files and folders in all drives and
repaints the
screen


Launching ProDOS files
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In order to do this you must copy GEOLOAD.system as the first file on
the disk
that you wish to load and run a prodos sys file. After this file
PRODOS should
be placed.



Having big problems???
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why not call Berkeley Softworks and ask them what to do, but sound
intellegent.
I have been having problems with launching ProDos files. (415)/
644-3414 9 am
and 5 pm Pacific time.

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-END-

Oliver Schmidt

Hi Antoine,

> I've uploaded the GEOS disks I have @http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/geos/

Thanks for your effort - however this material is exactly what is
available from Breadbox...

> I cannot tell about docs or other software solutions.

I see. Thanks anyway, Oliver

Oliver Schmidt

Hi Bill,

> When I asked for
> permission to reproduce the manuals for the program in 2002, Breadbox
> Computer did not mention anything about tools for the Apple ][.

Thanks for that background info, Oliver

Oliver Schmidt

Hi Dean,

> The only other program that I know of, and have copies of disk images
> of, is GeoPublish which was the GEOS answer to Publish It!. If you'd
> like a copy of it let me know and I'll e-mail it to you.

That would be just great :-)

Many thanks in advance, Oliver

A little note for Google

On Dec 11, 12:32*am, Oliver Schmidt <ol...@web.de> wrote:
> Hi Antoine,
>
> > I've uploaded the GEOS disks I have @http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/geos/
>
> Thanks for your effort - however this material is exactly what is
> available from Breadbox...
>
> > I cannot tell about docs or other software solutions.
>
> I see. Thanks anyway, Oliver

http://www.callapple.org/2011/12/10/...nload-section/
Article plus the CD download with the manuals and everything we have
for it. We still have not received a copy of Publish for GEOS yet but
when we do, we will add it to the CD.

Cheers

--billm--

bill.martens@gmail.com

On Dec 11, 12:36*am, Oliver Schmidt <ol...@web.de> wrote:
> Hi Dean,
>
> > The only other program that I know of, and have copies of disk images
> > of, is GeoPublish which was the GEOS answer to Publish It!. If you'd
> > like a copy of it let me know and I'll e-mail it to you.
>
> That would be just great :-)
>
> Many thanks in advance, Oliver

I have reposted the Full CD with all the manuals on the A.P.P.L.E.
Website:
http://www.callapple.org/2011/12/10/...nload-section/

If someone has a copy of Publish or any other Apps for GEOS, please
let me know and I will add it to the CD.

Cheers

--billm--