Doug Anderson wrote:
> Junior <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> writes:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> > In article <i5pt63$b63$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > "JKConey" <jkconey@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There's all levels of users, and then there's those that simply want to
>> >> be in control of what they own. It's almost impossible to make a MAC user
>> >> understand why us dopes suffer with Windows.
>> >
>> > It's almost impossible to make a Windows user who refuses to give Mac OS
>> > a try with an open mind understand that being in full control isn't
>> > always indicative of a better user experience, and that quite often, the
>> > compromise of less control is worth the aded benefit of stuff that just
>> > works.
>>
>> I thought the issue of control and the restrictive OS was only with
>> the iPhone. Are you saying a Mac desktop computer has the same
>> issues compared with a Windows desktop computer?
>
> This isn't the case.
>
> Remember that Macs are running a unix-type operating system at the
> base level (like linux) and you have the same level of control.
>
> No "jailbreaking" is required, for example, to log in as root and do
> whatever you want.
>
> The difference is that 99% of the time, you don't _need_ to do that
> since for most things Apple has provided good ways of doing them
> _without_ editing text files in /etc. (Not 100% of the time, but most
> of the time.)
OK, that's interesting; the config files are in /etc just like on a
linux system. I spend a lot of time at the command prompt or base
level with linux but prefer a gui interface. Thanks for the info. My
next toy might be a Mac.
>> I've only used
>> Windows and Linux so this is news to me about Apple. There was
>> something in the news the other day about the need to jailbreak a
>> droid now. That's just stupid. Bad business. Lame. Etc., etc...
>>
>> It just won't work. 
>
> Well, as I said, this isn't apple's business model for their
> computers.
>
> But as far as your assertion that it "won't work" - that seems to be
> contradicted by the success of the iPod and the iPhone. It _does_ seem
> to "work," though like you, I'd prefer that Apple not do it.
Yes, what I was trying to say is that this is a bad business model.
There needs to be a compromise in there somewhere. You might think
this is a little foolish but, I had to get the new iPhone 4 because
it was the latest gadget. I haven't done the jailbreak thing "yet"
although I may give it a try. It's about curiosity. I'm a geek;
can't help it.
I recently decided against getting an iPad because of this issue and
also the fact that you are unable to connect a USB memory stick to
the iPad. That just didn't work for me.
This is still a dilemma for me because I want something like the
iPad and there doesn't seem to be anything else comparable on the
market.